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Old 5th February 2009, 06:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ema's RPG Sheet Website down...

Thanks to the folks at WotC. As someone who used that site for character sheets over the last few years, I've gotta say that I'm really annoyed.

Good luck sorting things out Ema.
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Old 5th February 2009, 06:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well sure, tough economy. With so much corporate belt tightening, the WOTC Legal Hit Squad needs to look like they're productive and busy. So they unsheath the Plus Five Bic Pen of Funkilling and the Plus Three Cease and Desist Pad of Pettiness and go to work.

Way to go WOTC.
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Dirty pool. This fan site has been contributing to the D&D community for ages, and by threatening it, WotC is spitting in all our faces.

This is a bad move, and I find it hard to believe that it was perpetrated by the same people who have shown our community so much goodwill and support. The person responsible should be reprimanded, and an apology sent to the website operator.

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Old 5th February 2009, 07:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You know,

I was livid when they killed Dungeon and Dragon. But this just elevates me to a level of disgust that I just can't verbalize on this site with out breaking the rules. I can say I'm officially done with EVER purchasing anything from these sanctimonious pricks.

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Old 5th February 2009, 07:54 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hmm, maybe it was just for the fact that the site asked for the paypal donations?

But the stench of T$R is in the air...
Nope air here is clear.

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Old 5th February 2009, 07:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Without any actual information (and there is precious little in the notice on Ema's site), it's impossible to tell what's going on. All we know is that a C&D letter exists; we don't know what it was for exactly, we don't know how much conversation took place prior to it, we don't know if it's an issue that can be easily fixed or not.

I'm sure Ema and/or WotC will fill us in on the details when/if they feel like it, but jumping to conclusions is not particularly productive.
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Old 5th February 2009, 08:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm sure Ema and/or WotC will fill us in on the details when/if they feel like it, but jumping to conclusions is not particularly productive.
No, no... I disagree. I think now is the time to declare my undying hatred and blood feud with Wizards of the Coast, Dungeons & Dragons and Scott Rouse personally. They will rue the day that they took down this website and sparked my wrath. We might want to step out of the books on this one.

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Old 5th February 2009, 08:01 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hmm. First WotC scores some points in my opinion for 'stepping out of the books'* on one actual pirate, but then they take down a longstanding fansite. That's just not cool guys. Not at all. I have big differences on a design level with you guys over 4e, and some constant eye-rolling over the management and content in the digital area, but it's nothing personal ... but this just comes off as scummy. Say it 'aint so.

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Old 5th February 2009, 08:06 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Desperately low sales of 4e relative to those seen initially with 3.0 call for desperate behaviour, I suppose.

Yes, I'm having flashbacks of TSR during the 2E days with respect to their treatment of fan websites.

Maybe they will discuss it on their slick, polished, and informative Podcast! I can't wait!!!

Not cool, guys. Not at all.

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The nerd rage in this thread is truly sad.

You don't know the facts, but fly off the handle anyway?
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Old 5th February 2009, 08:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
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, but then they take down a longstanding fansite. That's just not cool guys.
They didn't "take down a fansite". They sent a C&D regarding something which, if I were to guess, was the Character Manager.
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Old 5th February 2009, 08:22 PM   #12 (permalink)
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You know,

I was livid when they killed Dungeon and Dragon. But this just elevates me to a level of disgust that I just can't verbalize on this site with out breaking the rules. I can say I'm officially done with EVER purchasing anything from these sanctimonious pricks.

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Old 5th February 2009, 08:22 PM   #13 (permalink)
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What I find troubling is this happened right on the heels of releasing the Character Builder, which generates a character sheet.

I don't know their true motives, but the timing makes this look like WotC didn't mind Ema's site while they didn't have their act together on their DDI software. In other words, this looks like a management decision rather than just someone from legal trying to look busy.

With the GSL still not finished 9 months after the release of 4e, people have largely been playing it by ear as to how much reference to 4e will be tolerated. If Ema's site is problematic, it is getting hard to see what 3rd party published works would be safe from censure.

I was considering working on coding an app for my new Iphone for displaying 4e power cards, but I sure as heck won't now. I'm wondering if I can contribute to fan sites with 4e monsters and classes for old campaign settings (in my case Dragonlance) as well.
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Old 5th February 2009, 08:23 PM   #14 (permalink)
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They didn't "take down a fansite". They sent a C&D regarding something which, if I were to guess, was the Character Manager.
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Old 5th February 2009, 08:28 PM   #15 (permalink)
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This is low. Low low low. I'm sure someone from WotC will be around soon for some light damage control, as usual.
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