Speaking of Broken... Discussion over items needing Proposal
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Cheers,
Is this fully approved currently?
It's not in the charter...
Kamotz is using the overhaul (kind of, not much is changing outside of Divine power, and this background thing, he even still comes from Bacarte).
The Restless Dead Background (listed under general if you have the CB) is what this proposal is about, but if someone wants to tack something else on I will.
Associated skills: insight, perception, religion
and a +1 bonus to damage rolls vs. undead keyword.
it also comes with a Possible Minor Quest, to find and destroy the origin of the Undead threat. (perfect after Broken Wards: Long Arm of Lauto)
Thats all, Thanks!
Ok changing this thread into a random catch all for broken stuff chat.
I'd like to draw people attention to the Wolfen Weapon, if this isn't nerfed Kamotz will want it. (wolfen, wolven, Kamotz is a longtooth shifter, see where this is going?)
This incorrectly spelled magic blade gives a +2 bonus to Perception checks, and negates the Perception penalty when you sleep.
A daily power that, as a Free Action, uses it's power before any creature has acted druing a surprise round and even if you are surprised. You and all allies within 5 squares of you are no longer surprised. You can act during the surprise round, if applicable. If no one is surprised, skip the surprise round and instead begin combat as normal.
extra +2d6 for a crit with the level 9 version.
Anyone feel this needs nerfing?
Last edited by CaBaNa; 29th August 2009 at 08:12 PM..
Well, Dragon 371 is in the list of things that will be auto-approved late September after the change to the proposal system.
You don't have to make proposals to get new material included anymore, just to exclude problematic things you see
That said, this background can give you +2 to a skill plus +1 to damage vs. undead? That seems a bit much for a background, to me. Unless I'm missing something - I don't have DDI, so I'm just going on what you've posted.
You don't get all of them. The damage vs undead is instead of getting +2 to one of the associated skills, or having one of said skills added to your class skill list.
And I feel your pain, Cabana. That's when Divine Power becomes official, and Raiyek just leveled up too My plan is to wait to submit for approval until the 19th
I just logged in to post about this too - I just noticed that the backgrounds in this article look like the generic PHB2 style, but they actually have extra effects. So:
I propose we exclude the backgrounds from this article.
The rationale is that we generally allow PHB2-style backgrounds (just a +2 skill bonus or skill training) since they're generic, and our own regional backgrounds with more specific effects for flavour. These have specific effects, but they're not tied to our world.
So now that I've proposed this, 371 will be adopted in a month as usual, except for the backgrounds. We have to vote on those. On the plus side, if we vote on them early and vote NO to my proposal to exclude, they could be adopted right away!
(I'm not trying to pick on Kamotz here. I agree the background you picked is appropriate for him, and I'm not saying they're unbalanced. I just wanted to draw attention to the fact that they're not your standard backgrounds, so I think we should vote on them specially. Maybe we could ban them generally but allow Kamotz to take this one due to his recent setting-specific experience with the undead?)
I seem to remember discussion of Wolfen weapons, back when the dragon they were from was first proposed. ISTR concerns being raised that every party from middle heroic onwards would just keep one of these in their backpacks, and say goodbye to surprise being part of the game.
I can't remember if we just left them unapproved, or if we clarified that you had to be holding it for the effects to apply. I'm sure that thread is still kicking around somewhere, but I don't have time to dig for it right now.
Were those from the Wolves of Maldeen article? If so, we just banned the entire thing (I think it was over that one item, which seems like overkill). Since it's on the list of stuff we officially voted NO to, it won't be included when everything goes in in September, although I'm pretty sure it's been long enough it could be re-proposed.
CaBaNa, can you put "Proposal:" back in the thread title so that I can find this thread again when it's time to gather everything up? Thanks.
Level: 8
Price: 3400 gp
Weapon: Flail, Hammer, Mace
Enhancement: +2 attack rolls and damage rolls
Critical: +2d6 radiant damage
Property: This weapon can be used as a holy symbol. It adds its enhancement bonus to attack rolls and damage rolls, and attacks can be augmented by this weapon’s power when it is used as an implement. You do not gain your weapon proficiency to an attack roll when using a disrupting weapon as an implement.
Property: On a critical hit you deal 2d10 radiant damage instead of +2d6 against undead.
Power (Daily • Radiant): Free Action. Use this power when you hit an undead creature with this weapon. Deal +1d10 radiant damage.
Kamotz is still looking for a weapon to fulfill his wish list...
Looks comparable to the Scalebane weapon from AV, except with a little lower extra damage and the ability to be used as a holy symbol.
I don't have a problem with the holy symbol bit, since needing a magic weapon and magic holy symbol can be such a huge damper on character concepts. There's pact blades/hammers/swords/etc ..., why can't there be a holy symbol weapon earlier than Holy Avengers?
but I'm leveling up NOOOoooOOOoooW 
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