L&L 4/16 - A Walk Down Monster Lane
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am181d
Adventurer
The list of monster books assumes Wizards has made the best monster books? (Surely a lot of us would have picked Monsternomicon or Tome of Horrors as our favorite monster book.)
There was no way for 2nd Edition Grognards to indicate their preference for the binder format?
The checklist of monsters with an other box, made it very hard to guess what monsters were assumed and what would need to be written in?
The one thing I gleaned from the survey is that someone at WotC probably wants to figure out how to make the MM a player supplement, which I'm torn on. On the one hand, it's a rotten idea. On the other hand, it does make sense to put some monster race stuff in there. (For instance, I would be OK with having the rules for some of the Eberron races only appear in the MM if that gave them a better shot of inclusion in the initial set of books.)
There was no way for 2nd Edition Grognards to indicate their preference for the binder format?
The checklist of monsters with an other box, made it very hard to guess what monsters were assumed and what would need to be written in?
The one thing I gleaned from the survey is that someone at WotC probably wants to figure out how to make the MM a player supplement, which I'm torn on. On the one hand, it's a rotten idea. On the other hand, it does make sense to put some monster race stuff in there. (For instance, I would be OK with having the rules for some of the Eberron races only appear in the MM if that gave them a better shot of inclusion in the initial set of books.)
RangerWickett
Legend
I wonder if they could sell something like "The Adventurer's Guide to Monsters," a book that presents monster lore?
Maybe in the main Monster Manual they could have sidebars like "Items you can make from a behir's liver," or "Special combat maneuvers of the githyanki."
Maybe in the main Monster Manual they could have sidebars like "Items you can make from a behir's liver," or "Special combat maneuvers of the githyanki."
Kaodi
Legend
Nine out of my list of fifty four basic monsters were present in this survey. I think an 83% prediction rate is not too bad, 
. ( From this thread: http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/310279-beginners-monster-list.html )
I do not think guessing what they are already counting should be too difficult. I would take a stab at making the list myself were I not in need of hitting the sack.
. ( From this thread: http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/310279-beginners-monster-list.html )I do not think guessing what they are already counting should be too difficult. I would take a stab at making the list myself were I not in need of hitting the sack.
Thanks for the link. I took the survey.
I put down that I want the MM as a DM only book and that I want Demons and Devils. However, I didn't have enough room in the comments to put down that I don't care about Primordials and deities and want them in their own book. I used the comment space to tell them what I like about the 1e MM (having the demon princes and arch-devils), 2e MM (ecologies) and 3e MM (ability scores and ac broken down). I also told them that I liked third party books like Green Ronin's Advanced Bestiary, Silverthorne's Book of Templates, and Betabunny's Predators. The template books not only made it easy to modify races and monsters, but, when applied to animals in Predators, one could create new monster variants of animals, duplicate several MM critters, and also have real animals populating the setting.
I put down that I want the MM as a DM only book and that I want Demons and Devils. However, I didn't have enough room in the comments to put down that I don't care about Primordials and deities and want them in their own book. I used the comment space to tell them what I like about the 1e MM (having the demon princes and arch-devils), 2e MM (ecologies) and 3e MM (ability scores and ac broken down). I also told them that I liked third party books like Green Ronin's Advanced Bestiary, Silverthorne's Book of Templates, and Betabunny's Predators. The template books not only made it easy to modify races and monsters, but, when applied to animals in Predators, one could create new monster variants of animals, duplicate several MM critters, and also have real animals populating the setting.
Andor
First Post
It had possibly one or two minor issues, but that was far and away the best poll I've seen to date in the 5e design process. Someone actually knew what they were doing.
Blackwarder
Adventurer
I like the 2nd ed MM format, especially because of ecologies and the lore, having a minimum of one A4 page per monster (and sometimes two or three pages) with all that information was the best thing ever.
One of my biggest handicaps while playing 3rd was that I lost my great tome of 2nd AD&D monsters and with that all the ecology and lore information.
But tbh, what I really want is a digital MM so that I can easily add template or tweak monsters to my heart content, preferably on my iPad and preferably off line and preferably with the ability to load it with third party developers, oh and I should be able to edit it like thos stacks of yellow postit notes in the old books only this time right inside the MM.
Warder
One of my biggest handicaps while playing 3rd was that I lost my great tome of 2nd AD&D monsters and with that all the ecology and lore information.
But tbh, what I really want is a digital MM so that I can easily add template or tweak monsters to my heart content, preferably on my iPad and preferably off line and preferably with the ability to load it with third party developers, oh and I should be able to edit it like thos stacks of yellow postit notes in the old books only this time right inside the MM.
Warder
Chris_Nightwing
First Post
That long list of monsters (which reminded me heavily of the time I transcribed the 2nd edition monster manual into a database) really shows how many BAD monsters have been created over the years. I could only select 5 that I felt were iconic or interesting enough to include.
Chris_Nightwing
First Post
It had possibly one or two minor issues, but that was far and away the best poll I've seen to date in the 5e design process. Someone actually knew what they were doing.
Yes, perhaps because the product manager arranged it?
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