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Old 14th December 2011, 09:14 AM   23 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1 (permalink)
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WotC's Annual Xmas Layoffs

Wizards of the Coast's annual Christmas layoffs appear to have begun. So far, casualties appear to include Rich Baker and Steve Winter. More as we hear more.

Rich Baker has posted his farewell on WotC's forums.
Today, Wizards of the Coast eliminated my position. I have unfortunately been let go, after more than 20 years of employment with TSR/WotC.

I still hope to write for the Forgotten Realms novel line as time and opportunity permit. In fact, I'm going to go home tonight and finish my second draft of Prince of Ravens. There may be some more opportunities down the road.

D&D fans... thanks for a great run. I hope I've given you some good gaming over the years. Your game is in good hands with Mike and Monte.

For fans of the A&A minis games, I would like to say that this does not signal the cancellation of any miniatures lines. I hope I can take on some of the design work on a freelance basis, but we'll have to see.

Time to splice the main brace, as they say. Good gaming, all!
Interestingly, it seems this must have come as a sudden surprise because just yesterday (the 13th) he was posting about the work he'd be doing in the New Year.

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Old 14th December 2011, 10:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Layoff rumors at WOTC

Author Phil Athans just tweeted that Rick baker has been laid off at WOTC.

If this is true it sucks, Baker's one of the good guys there.

Lets hope that the "layoffs during christmas" tradition has died.

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Old 14th December 2011, 10:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Edit: Both are confirmed. Rich Baker and Steve Winter.
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Old 14th December 2011, 10:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Let's hope that the "layoffs during Christmas" tradition has died.
Hope all you want, but I wouldn't put any money on them suddenly breaking this tradition.

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Old 14th December 2011, 10:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Two long time guys. This sucks.
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Yeah, I knew Rich well. Good guy and will sorely be missed. He also did a lot of non D&D work, such as Axis & Allies and the recent Conquest of Nerath. Another fun fact is that he was one of the creators of the late-90s sci-fi RPG Alternity. To top it all off, he is an award winning author of many Forgotten Realms novels.

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Yeah, I knew Rich well. Good guy and will sorely be missed. He also did a lot of non D&D work, such as Axis & Allies and the recent Conquest of Nerath. Another fun fact is that he was one of the creators of the late-90s sci-fi RPG Alternity. To top it all off, he is an award winning author of many Forgotten Realms novels.
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That's sad. I've got fond memories of both of their work...especially Baker!

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Oh, jeez. What the hell, guys?

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That just sucks. I don't ever think I'll understand their criteria for who gets laid off.
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Old 14th December 2011, 10:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yeah, I knew Rich well. Good guy and will sorely be missed. He also did a lot of non D&D work, such as Axis & Allies and the recent Conquest of Nerath. Another fun fact is that he was one of the creators of the late-90s sci-fi RPG Alternity. To top it all off, he is an award winning author of many Forgotten Realms novels.
What?! I was under the impression CoN was doing very well - it is favourably reviewed even on Eurogame loving boardgamegeek for gawd's sake! Talk about a case of 'what have you done for me lately'...
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Damn. Rich Baker was one of the few guys left doing D&D stuff over there that I could name off a dozen things he'd worked on and still be left with dozens upon dozens more that I owned copies of, still used, and really enjoyed. He did some good stuff. He also wrote the PSMC II with the guardinals and eladrin (and others) back in 2e. Good stuff.

I don't know what WotC is thinking here. *sigh and shakes head*

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Rick posted his goodbye at the Wizards' community site.

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'Tis a sad, sad day. Two gentlemen of many credits on the things I liked.


I have to wonder if Paizo would be able to pick them up - if they still wanted to be involved in the RPG business?
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