Of market leaders, stigmas and widespread appeal...

Orius · Jul 5, 2008

Tao said:
even D&Ders think GURPS players are dorks...

Yeah, I wanted to make a GURPS crack myself, but I don't know the game and I'd jut get myself rightfully called down over it.

DandD said:
Everybody knows that Vampire is for emos and goths...

Which is why I'll never touch it, even with a trusty 10 foot pole.

Ruin Explorer said:
Oh furries, thank you for making all the other wierdoes look good.

I heartily agree. Or should I say "Yiff"? On second though I probably shouldn't.

hong said:
When D&D fully embraces violence as the one true method of solving problems, only then will it lose its stigma.

How much more violent does it need to get? It's hard to top medieval weaponry for brutality and violence, unless one uses a chainsaw, in which case it wouldn't be D&D any more. And I'm not counting the two chainsaws in the 2e reference the Encyclopedia Magica.

hong · Jul 5, 2008

Why... it would have to have CHAINSAW KATANAE!

Asmor · Jul 5, 2008

wedgeski said:
fat, smelly nerds having roleplay sex with eachother in their parents' basement

Well, crap. Now I have to rewrite tonight's adventure. How about some spoiler tags in the future?

Doug McCrae · Jul 5, 2008

Imaro said:
Well I remember when Vampire first came out, it wasn't (to my recollection) necessarily associated with geekdom/nerdom in the same way D&D was (like I said earlier, maybe some goth connotations at times). Now maybe this had alot to do with Anne Rice making Vampires cool again, but it still boils down to making something cool.

It's cause goths are cooler than nerds, probably because they put more effort into their appearance. However mainstream society hates goths more than nerds.

Xyxox · Jul 5, 2008

Doug McCrae said:
It's cause goths are cooler than nerds, probably because they put more effort into their appearance. However mainstream society hates goths more than nerds.

That's because nerds are actually productive for society.

Heck, one of the nerdiest guys in the world is Steve Gates, and look at what he did for the world.

Imaro · Jul 5, 2008

GnomeWorks said:
Both of your links are "of all time" sorts of lists, which don't really do justice to current trends, now, do they?

Okay here are the top selling games of May...
http://www.videobusiness.com/index.asp?layout=marketData&content=topgamesellers

Again I'm not seeing a trend of only violent videogames being the top sellers, but a mixture of types. I really think this is a misconception. Of course YMMV.

Mallus · Jul 5, 2008

Imaro said:
Now if that awareness could be turned in a different direction so that the D&D name evoked other images or stereotypes it could probably grow it's market.

Figuring out how to package and sell busy adults (and over-scheduled teens) the time required to play campaign-oriented RPG's would grow the market. This, of course, is tricky stuff.

As far as other hobbies go, I know people who play boardgames almost religiously, same game, same day and same time each week... yet the same stigma isn't attached.

I don't know, I'd attach a stigma to board game nerds...

Videogames, ditto (and the funny thing is computer games did have this type of stigma when first starting out).

Tell this to my wife, please.

Even building model cars or railroads doesn't have the same stigma attached. It might be looked at as quirky, but still cool.

Cool? No.

Of market leaders, stigmas and widespread appeal...

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