When did I stop being WotC's target audience?

The drawback of course is that we still need to buy supplements, so from a financial perspective, it didn't really change for me (but it might have for others, who didn't use to bother with supplements since the core rules contained their Druids and Frost Giants.)

Technically, you don't even have to buy the supplements anymore, as the DDI Compendium would also be updated with the new rules content by what, the 4th Tuesday of the month (I can't remember the exact details anymore).
 

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This is a just out of curiosity question...

When people compare the options of 3.5 to 4e do they take into consideration the Monster Manual which had an abundance of mosters that could be made into PC's (You know one of the advantages of monsters and PC's operating on the same rules)? I'm just curious because I don't see it brought up in any of the debates.

I don't think its brought up in many of these debates because the 4e MM has playable versions of most (but not all) of the really popular monstrous races. Personally, given the glass-jawed characters that the LA mechanic and ECL system could easily create, I'm not convinced that the majority of those options were really that viable to begin with, at least for the majority of players and campaigns. I think WoTC agreed with that assesment, given the creation of monster class levels, etc.
 

Technically, you don't even have to buy the supplements anymore, as the DDI Compendium would also be updated with the new rules content by what, the 4th Tuesday of the month (I can't remember the exact details anymore).
That is what I plan on using a lot, unless the book is one I really, really like.
 

That is what I plan on using a lot, unless the book is one I really, really like.

I'm pretty much a collector, so I can easily get on the supplement treadmill (I'm pretty much on already), especially with the deals I'm getting from Amazon. That said, if times get tough and I have to cut back, its nice to have the option of the Compendium.
 


Why did they decide to re-tool the entire game?

I would dearly love to hear from one of the WOTC staff justifying the (almost) complete overhaul of the D&D game.

Because the biggest problem with D&D is that it's D&D. The game has needed a fundamental structural change for many years now; 3E was a good start, and a single step in the right direction, by introducing actual skills, making most of the stats useful, tearing down most of the limits in race/class/etc choice, and a number of other things. Really, 4E didn't go nearly as far as it could have.
 

Just one more former collector who no longer seems to be part of the target audience. Just stating where I am at and will refrain from getting into the edition war.
 

Technically, you don't even have to buy the supplements anymore, as the DDI Compendium would also be updated with the new rules content by what, the 4th Tuesday of the month (I can't remember the exact details anymore).

I can just see it now, all the people who were saying they were trying to switch D&D to a purely online model....proven right with the justification by a WotC rep that the books "Just aren't profitable anymore"

:lol: I kid...I kid...



:eek: Or do I?
 

I can just see it now, all the people who were saying they were trying to switch D&D to a purely online model....proven right with the justification by a WotC rep that the books "Just aren't profitable anymore"

:lol: I kid...I kid...



:eek: Or do I?

Oh, I definitely see an increasing trend towards online distribution methods, which makes sense if your printing costs are going up and your primary audience is, in general, very tech savvy, but I don't see the traditional distribution methods going away anytime in the near future (especially if you can get people like me to buy both) However, the online model that everyone seems to fear is more centered on the exclusivity of online play; personally, I don't think the extinction of physical, PnP games will ever come to pass.
 

4e is modular. The core books present the core system and the core component of D&D gameplay - encounter resolution. With a solid, balanced system you can plug away, easily adding whatever subsystems you want. You can take them easily from past editions, other games, whatever,....



thats true. for example, i took the 4th ed phb, cut out the part that said 4th edition off of the cover, and pasted it on my shiny new pathfinder rpg book.
 

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