9th-level Druid build, 200 damage/round

Rystil Arden said:

"Aha! You're a doppleganger posing as Bob! You're Monstrous Humanoids, so you have to pay double despite being exactly the same body shape!"

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Surely you're not insinuating that this is, through some bizarre twist of logic, silly?

Anyway, I just remembered something. Wild shape doesn't change your creature type anymore! (Doh!)

Good news for the shapeshifters in Infiniti2000's campaign: No extra cost for new armor beyond the increase for Large size. Want an armor for, say, a giant octopus? No worries - same price. The creature type is all that matters.

Bad news for the shapeshifters in Infiniti2000's campaign: Even though their bodies are the same shape as before, their current armor no longer fits. For some perfectly sensible reason.

Iku Rex said:

You offered two options and demanded that I choose one. In fact those were not the only available options. Sounds like textbook false dilemma to me.
How about:
3. The rule says "humanoid" so therefore it's referring to general body shape or creature type.

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Eh? How is that not one of the two I provided? Should I have said "pick one or both"? Would that match your desire then? Quite frankly, I thought it was self-evident that you could pick both if you really wanted.

Iku Rex said:

Two creatures with 100% (outwardly) identical bodies.

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Well, that's just not possible, but maybe we're talking about different things. You can't have a giant be 100% identical to a humanoid. Even a monstrous humanoid is not the same. If they were, they'd be humanoids. Sheesh. The wild shape errata aside (which is stupid and I don't use), a monstrous humanoid, an ape, a giant, or anything else like that has to pay the x4 penalty for armor. If there's a magical ability that allows someone to exactly mimic a humanoid, then okay but that's not what we're talking about.

We're talking about a stock cave troll. I can't go for that, no can do.

Tell me what humanoid a cave troll is "100% (outwardly) identical" to.

Infiniti--I actually agree with your argument for things that are out-of-proportion like a cave troll would be, but I don't see why a Nymph, an Elan, or a Doppleganger would have to pay double for their armour.

Rystil Arden said:

Infiniti--I actually agree with your argument for things that are out-of-proportion like a cave troll would be, but I don't see why a Nymph, an Elan, or a Doppleganger would have to pay double for their armour.

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If I were DM, I could be convinced on a case-by-case basis. If that means I concede, then I happily do so.

I'll buy the next round for my penance.