Before the Big Bang

There is a theory that says if we figure out how the universe works, the universe will change to something more complicated. Some say this has already happened.

SPACE.com -- Glimpse Before Big Bang Possible

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/090113-st-before-big-bang.html said:
The universe appears to be lopsided, and a new model that aims to explain this anomaly could offer a glimpse of what happened before the birth of it all.

When astronomers look out at the cosmos, the view in one direction is turning out to be different than in the other. Specifically, fluctuations in the density and temperature of the radiation left over from the theoretical Big Bang â€" called the Cosmic Microwave Background â€" seem to be strangely larger on one side of the universe.

A new model suggests this unevenness could be caused by an imprint left over from before the beginning of the universe, that is, before the cosmos ballooned almost instantaneously from less than the size of an atom to about golf-ball size. This process is called inflation.

Blowing up the balloon

"Inflation theory does predict that we have these density and temperature fluctuations, but they should look the same everywhere across the sky," said Caltech astrophysicist Sean Carroll, who worked on the new model, detailed in the Dec. 16 issue of the journal Physical Review D. "But people who look at the data say they see one side of the universe has bigger fluctuations, and that's what we're trying to get a handle on."

Scientists think the normal variations in temperature and density predicted by inflation became the seeds for the structure we see today throughout the universe. Soon after inflation, the denser areas would have attracted more matter and eventually grown into the clusters and galaxies we see today, while less dense regions would have become voids mostly absent of galaxies, stars and planets.

But the normal model of inflation can't account for the asymmetry now noted. To try to explain that, Carroll, astrophysicist Marc Kamionkowski and graduate student Adrienne Erickcek (all at Caltech) tested a new version of inflation theory, in which two fields are responsible for the universe's early bloom of expansion.

In the standard theory of inflation, one field called the inflaton (not inflation) caused both the rapid expansion of the universe and its density fluctuations. But Kamionkowski and team found that an unevenness in the density fluctuations could arise if inflation is caused by two fields instead of one. In the new model, the inflaton is responsible for ballooning the size of the universe, while a second field called the curvaton that had been previously proposed introduces the density variations.

Before the Big Bang?

The model also intriguingly hints at what might have come before inflation, since it suggests that the universe's lopsidedness may be an aftereffect of a great fluctuation that occurred before inflation began.

"It's no longer completely crazy to ask what happened before the Big Bang," Kamionkowski said. "All of that stuff is hidden by a veil, observationally. If our model holds up, we may have a chance to see beyond this veil."

The next step is to gather better data about the Cosmic Microwave Background, to confirm that the unevenness seen so far really holds up.

"So far it seems to be in the data, but that doesn't mean it's in the universe," Carroll told SPACE.com. "There's a chance this asymmetry is coming from errors in the data."

A new European Space Agency satellite called Planck, designed to map the background radiation with unprecedented sensitivity and resolution, is set to launch in 2009. If Planck finds the radiation densities to be off-balance, too, then cosmologists must really come to terms with this puzzling aspect of inflation. Though it would require some serious amendments to current theories, many physicists would relish the challenge.

"That's what everyone wants â€" it's much more interesting that way," Carroll said.

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freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
So I guess that there are more stars closer to the galactic core based on that model.

:confused: I would have never guessed.
This is actually on scales way larger than the galaxy. It is true that there are more stars near the galactic center, but that's for more pedestrian reasons like gravitational attraction.
 


Umbran

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Two notes:

1) "Before inflation" does not equate to "Before the Big Bang".

2) "Before the Big Bang" is, by the definitions of the model they are talking about, a nonsensical statement. There was no time before the Big Bang. Spacetime didn't exist, so there's no time back there in which this other thing could happen.

That last is a really hard thing to grasp, but it is true.
 

freyar

Extradimensional Explorer
Yeah, they're definitely misusing terminology for the sake of a good quote. I guess sometimes people use "Big Bang" to mean reheating at the end of inflation these days, but they should really say before inflation in this case.
 

CleverNickName

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This is what's cool about being an engineering major. The only parts of physics that we care about are the parts we can whack with a hammer. :)
 

Two notes:

1) "Before inflation" does not equate to "Before the Big Bang".
It's not that wrong - we associate the expansion of the universe with the Big Bang, before the Inflaton field effects, the expansion was not all that exciting. It's more a small bang and then the big bang rapidly expands the universe.

2) "Before the Big Bang" is, by the definitions of the model they are talking about, a nonsensical statement. There was no time before the Big Bang. Spacetime didn't exist, so there's no time back there in which this other thing could happen.

That last is a really hard thing to grasp, but it is true.
It certainly is.
 

Umbran

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It's not that wrong

This is physics - our definitions are not vague or hazy. It is either the correct use of the term, or it isn't. When everrone's been taught "Big Bang = beginning of universe" to start referring to "before the Big Bang is highly misleading, and, in fact, brings them to thinking somethign is true, when it isn't. This is kind of opposite the goal of science.

See previous rants about poor science reporting.
 

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