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Monday, 14th December, 2009, 08:02 PM #1
Myrmidon (Lvl 10)
PRPG Advanced Player's Guide Playtest: Alchemist, Inquisitor, and Tactical Feats
Must be Monday:
Both classes are spellcasters. Looking forward to reading more later.Most sorts of diversion in men, children and other animals, are in imitation of fighting.
Monday, 14th December, 2009, 08:49 PM #2
Interesting. I kind of like the alchemist. Tossing alchemical bombs is pretty cool.
I like the idea of the inquisitor. Not sure he'll be cool to play. He might. He has some tough abilities.
But they do need to start designing some classes that can fill the roles in a party such as healer and trap finder. I'd like some alternate rogue classes. And for the love of the RPG gods, I hope Pathfinder designs a decent ninja that incorporates hand to hand fighting.
Monday, 14th December, 2009, 09:14 PM #3
Magsman (Lvl 14)
We will be doing a ninja in a year or two when we get to an "Asian"-themed book. Lots of ground to cover there.
Monday, 14th December, 2009, 11:25 PM #4
Myrmidon (Lvl 10)
The alchemist looks like tons of fun. Only one thing is missing--the Brew Potion feat. I guess it's a conscious design decision not to add it automatically to the class, since they definitely have an egocentric feel.
The inquisitor... I'm not quite sure what to make of it. The judgments are an interesting (I do like the fact that they take three rounds to reach their full effect), but the benefits are really generic. The class is built around a super-versatile self-buffing power, not unlike the barbarian's rage.
I think what's bugging me about this class is that its abilities don't support the theme. They add up to a PC whose function is to kick ass--anyone's ass--and take names, not search out specific enemies and punish them.
If these people are divinely empowered to protect the church by any means necessary, even if they have to bend or break the god's rules, then they could use class abilities related to seeing through disguises, lie detection, forcing captives to speak the truth, and so on.
In other worlds, an Inquisitor sounds like it should be the ideal class to drive the plot, dragging the party down the right path through a labyrinth of intrigue and at the end saying "These are the guys behind Father Abercromby's murder!" Then the rest of party will fight as usual, but the inquisitor will become a champion.
But as always, good and interesting ideas. I'm really excited about the quality of these previews, and the effort you people are putting into making each new class an interesting and unique play experience. I'll definitely be buying the advanced player's guide when it comes out!
Tuesday, 15th December, 2009, 12:29 AM #5
Novice (Lvl 1)
I really like the alchemist ... but have a minor suggestion... I would let them use Craft alchemy to identify potions, and remove Identify, Spell Resistance and Analyze Dweomer from the spell list, because these are all relating to arcane items and spells... i would remove them to keep the separation.
Tuesday, 15th December, 2009, 12:35 AM #6
Minor Trickster (Lvl 4)
Like the inquisitor, alot
dislike the alchemist and greatly dislike the tactical feats. They are both very 4th ed feel to them, and its not what i wanna play
Tuesday, 15th December, 2009, 03:12 PM #7
Acolyte (Lvl 2)
Last week we released the Shadow Assassin, which sound like it could be just what you're looking for:
It was designed by Owen K.C. Stephens who has a ton of awesome books to his name: contributions to 3rd and 4th editions of D&D, d20 Modern, the Black Company, EverQuest, Song of Ice and Fire, and Wheel of Time role-playing games, as well as the Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign setting. He's also author of the Advanced Gamemasterĺs Guide from Green Ronin, the Guide to Absalom released by Paizo Publishing, and was co-author of Star Wars Saga Edition from Wizards of the Coast.
Hyrum.Co-Founder, Super Genius Games
Tuesday, 15th December, 2009, 06:11 PM #8
Thanks for the heads up.
Wednesday, 16th December, 2009, 02:46 AM #9
The Great Druid (Lvl 17)
The Bombs ability of the Alchemist reminded me of this comic -
Link - in case image does not show.
It looks like a really fun class to play.
The Auld GrumpOh, I am a cook, and a captain bold, and the mate of the Nancy brig,
The midship mite,
And the Bo'sun tight,
And the crew of the captain's gig...
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Wednesday, 16th December, 2009, 03:16 AM #10
Novice (Lvl 1)
I don't about you guys, but I would have liked to have seen a little less spell casting in the new classes. Only the Cavalier is not truly "magical."When hinges creak in doorless chambers and strange and frightening sounds echo through the halls, whenever candlelights flicker where the air is deathly still, that is the time when ghosts are present, practicing their terror with ghoulish delight.
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