L4W Discussion Thread V
H.M.Gimlord
Explorer
Speaking of falls, does a dazed or stunned character get a save vs. a fall, and how would you RP success?
I've got some ideas, but I want to hear yours.
I had a dragon grab a stunned creature, take off into the air, and drop him from a large height. Not sure I did this right, but I figured that it was a dramatic gesture for an NPC, and it didn't matter. I'm sure if I did this against a PC, there would be an argument!
I've got some ideas, but I want to hear yours.
I had a dragon grab a stunned creature, take off into the air, and drop him from a large height. Not sure I did this right, but I figured that it was a dramatic gesture for an NPC, and it didn't matter. I'm sure if I did this against a PC, there would be an argument!
And well, here's Ianward Milner (Ian for short), a human battlemind almost ready to go. Still got a lot to edit on the template, but at least the most boring stuff is already over.
Anyone else has noticed how annoying is to be forced to take melee training for defenders not based on STR? With the coming essentials errata this is going to be even worse. I hope they address this problem soon at WotC.
Anyone else has noticed how annoying is to be forced to take melee training for defenders not based on STR? With the coming essentials errata this is going to be even worse. I hope they address this problem soon at WotC.
You can't augment the human at-will bonus power IIRC
renau1g
First Post
If it was a PC, perhaps a saving throw, maybe their adrenaline flowing allowed them to push through the "stun" and let the PC grab onto the dragon's leg. The stunned condition doesn't require you to drop what you're carrying, so I could see the PC having a death grip on the dragon.
I'm actually tempted to make a leader(Prolly Warlord) who never makes an attack roll... I just don't know whether or not I'll end up enjoying that in the long run.
There's the "Lazy Warlord" builds on the WotC website
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Personally, I'd recommend against it, I think it'd get old quick in PbP. Now, you'd likely do all the rolling anyway because otherwise it'd slow up the games too much.
evilbob
Explorer
re: Dragon move
I can't come up with a reason that isn't a valid tactic against a PC either. In fact, it's a great tactic, and one that combos a lot of nice dragon abilities in a powerful way.
The main difference between a PC and an NPC is that an at-level group of PCs will likely have more defenses against falling (if nothing else, just HP) when fighting a dragon who can do all of that in one round easily.
Someone: Yeah, the cool thing about teleporting is the idea of teleporting someone upward and having them fall and be prone - it's a bonus damage and effect. However, to balance this out they made it so that any time you are about to teleport someone to a place where they would fall or take damage somehow, they get a saving throw to negate the teleport. It's kind of a huge nerf, but it was also a pretty awesome tactic that they didn't seem to think of when writing teleport abilities.
I can't come up with a reason that isn't a valid tactic against a PC either. In fact, it's a great tactic, and one that combos a lot of nice dragon abilities in a powerful way.
The main difference between a PC and an NPC is that an at-level group of PCs will likely have more defenses against falling (if nothing else, just HP) when fighting a dragon who can do all of that in one round easily.
Someone: Yeah, the cool thing about teleporting is the idea of teleporting someone upward and having them fall and be prone - it's a bonus damage and effect. However, to balance this out they made it so that any time you are about to teleport someone to a place where they would fall or take damage somehow, they get a saving throw to negate the teleport. It's kind of a huge nerf, but it was also a pretty awesome tactic that they didn't seem to think of when writing teleport abilities.
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