View Poll Results: Which of the Pathfinder Adventure Paths are your favorites?
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Rise of the Runelords
Curse of the Crimson Throne
Legacy of Fire
Council of Thieves
Tuesday, 4th January, 2011, 07:08 PM #1
Guide (Lvl 11)
The Adventure Paths: The Best Ones Are?
The adventure paths for Pathfinder are top notch, but which ones stand out as the best?
Vote for your favorite(s) and explain why!
Last edited by Knightfall; Thursday, 6th January, 2011 at 11:07 PM.Robert Blezard
Tuesday, 4th January, 2011, 07:57 PM #2
Defender (Lvl 8)
Kingmaker gets my vote wholeheartedly as the top AP.
Edit: Ohhh forgot to explain why:
It fits my style of play. I prefer to have a goal and let the players get their of their own accord. Along the way they have encounters, but it is when the players decide to deal with it or when they stumble across it is when they deal with it.
Compare that to Curse of the Crimson Throne. One of the adventures, our group was told right from the outset, "you have to do X. But to be able to do X you have to first get magic item Y. But to find out exactly how to get to Y, you have to first be trusted by Z clan. To be trusted by Z clan, you have to be have someone from clan A who is highly regarded for their neutrality watch you perform operation B." I didn't find that adventure alot of fun. Why couldn't I just goto clan Z and kick the crap out of them until they told us where Y was. Why couldn't I just use magic to figure out where Y was? Its our adventure, why can't we do it the way we want to do it.
And that's what Kingmaker does. Here's your goal. If you want to skip the rest of the adventure and go straight to the main bad guy, go right ahead. You'll be at a lower level and it will be difficult, but it can be done.
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Tuesday, 4th January, 2011, 08:22 PM #3
Lama (Lvl 13)
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I really like Kingmaker for the reasons listed above, as well as for the kingdom building rules it introduced.
But my favorite so far is Serpent's Skull. The first installment is almost pure sandbox (like Kingmaker), but I love the flavor, and I love the way they've detailed the NPC interactions with the party. Also, the choices the party makes early on regarding the NPCs will have far reaching effects through the story.
Wednesday, 5th January, 2011, 06:59 AM #4
Acolyte (Lvl 2)
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the only one I have done so far is second darkness. I enjoyed it a lot and feel itbis a very good introduction to some historical facts of golarion.
Wednesday, 5th January, 2011, 08:15 AM #5
I've done Second Darkness, Kingmaker, and am now on Rise of the Runelords. All of them have been fun, but Kingmaker is my favorite so far. I like the perfect balance of story, sandbox, and goals.
Wednesday, 5th January, 2011, 07:40 PM #6
Thaumaturgist (Lvl 9)
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I liked all of them to one degree or another. Some of them appeal to different play styles or themes. Which will have a lot to do with which one you like best. So I will list them in order.
These are all very good.
1) Rise of the Runelords
3) Curse of the Crimson Throne
4) Serpent's Skull (this one is not all out yet so it might be moving up the list)
These are good
5) Legacy of Fire
6) Council of Thieves
These are ok
7) Second DarknessThose who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
Thursday, 6th January, 2011, 11:15 AM #7
Kingmaker because I love a sandbox.Steve "Quillion" Russell
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Thursday, 6th January, 2011, 12:24 PM #8
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I have played in Second Darkness, Curse of the Crimson Throne, and am currently playing through Legacy of Fire.
I have GMed Rise of the Runelords, Curse of the Crimson Throne, and am presently running Kingmaker.
I've read through Crown of Thieves and Serpent's Skull, but will exclude them from ranking, as I have not experienced them in play.
1. Rise of the Runelords.
This is honestly a very close race along with Kingmaker. RotRL edges the others out for me because it was an excellent introduction to the adventure paths and Golarion in general, and Varisia specifically. The party gets many memorable encounters, and a truely epic villain. The gold standard for the Paizo adventure paths.
My players are just now getting the kingdom-building stages, but love the sandbox style of adventuring. As a DM, I also enjoy the option for lengthy time-lapses between adventuring sessions, as the meteoric rise to power of the PCs in any adventure path does strain credibility a bit for me.
3. Legacy of Fire
Part of this is a personal fondness for genies and desert adventuring. My group is only just starting adventure 3, but I've really enjoyed how fleshed out the background is. I can't speak for this one from a DM perspective, but I really like all of the flavour. My GM had toyed with adapting some of the Kingmaker kingdom rules for Kelmerene, but ultimately decided against it. Once again, points from me for allowing lengthy breaks between the adventures.
4. Curse of the Crimson Throne
Both as a player and a GM, I enjoyed the continued fleshing-out of Varisia, the story of the Vancaskerkin family, and the story of Korvosa itself. That said, there were a few things that stretched my disbelief as this adventure path went on. Most notably is the almost overnight appearance of the Grey Maidens as a credible military force within the city, displacing the established city watch and military orders almost completely. The players are also encouraged to tie themselves strongly to Korvosa, but spend almost a third of the adventure path away from it. My understanding is that this was somewhat addressed in Council of Thieves, which is complete city-based. I also think that a fair amount of the Crimson Throne is _very_ linear (talk to group A to get an item for group B who will give you access to group C, who have the information you need), but Paizo does try to address this in side bars for groups that want to stray from the path, and experience the adventure in other ways. The GM will have the tools, but will need to put a fair amount of effort into using them. The default path in adventure 4 is probably the most respectful to the Shoanti clans, so I think a good-aligned party or one containing Shoanti characters are the most likely to take it. Impatient, or more neutral/evil aligned parties would likely be less inclined to do so.
All that may sound fairly negative, but I thoroughly enjoyed CotCT as a player, and my own players seemed to have similar fondness.
5. The Second Darkness
The weakest of the adventure paths is still fairly strong. I do feel that there is some discontinuity between the first two adventures in the series and the rest. A great deal of effort is made to get the players interested in running the Golden Goblin, but it barely shows up after the first adventure. Our group also felt like we were constantly being lead around as cannon fodder or living shields for the elves for the last 4 adventures, with very little consistent pay (a big thing for our primarily neutral, but evil-leaning party). That said, it was nice to have the third of Varisia's four cities fleshed out, as well as a great deal about the elves, and the drow of Golarion. Spending time in Zirnakaynin posing as drow was a great time.
If I run another adventure Path, I am undecided as to whether it will be Council of Thieves or Serpent's Skull. This thread may help me decide.
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Tuesday, 18th January, 2011, 05:54 AM #9
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Crimson Throne had great villains and NPCs; you got to spend a lot of time in the city of Korvosa which rewarded investment in the setting; it did have its overly linear bit in the middle but the adventure came out and said "Hey GM, this is linear as written, you'll need to mix this up a bit." I don't need a printed adventure to give me more sandbox, I can toss random encounters with the best of them.
Having said that, Kingmaker is also awesome and is my #2 - it's not just a random sandbox, it's a cool Golarion flavored sandbox.
Runelords was classic too. Serpent's Skull may end up beating it, time will tell.
Legacy of Fire was nice and Arabian flavored but just didn't have as much zazz. And Council of Thieves started to get a little boring.
Second Darkness had several good chapters but was very ill conceived in chapters 4-5. It's still ok - I am using the first two chapters as part of my non-Second-Darkness campaign - but it's definitely the least good of the APs.
As for the older ones, you don't list them but I count them, I'd put Savage Tide and Age of Worms up in the bottom of the very good category, and Shackled City in good around CoT.Geek Related blog - http://mxyzplk.wordpress.com/
Saturday, 8th January, 2011, 04:47 PM #10
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