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Sunday, 11th March, 2012, 01:22 AM #41
Waghalter (Lvl 7)
No, not free (well, most aren't)
But if I do something stupid because I didn't spend that money, then I'll be 'not free' in a different sense.
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Sunday, 11th March, 2012, 02:33 PM #42
Superhero (Lvl 15)
It's true that I actually had the 'detain and question' scenario in mind, though, not an actual arrest. I'm not sure it changes much, except I'd be very curious what would warrant an arrest.
www.leo.org (my favorite dictionary), this concept doesn't even exist in the US. Colour me surprised!
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Sunday, 11th March, 2012, 07:57 PM #43
The Great Druid (Lvl 17)
Furthermore, ANYONE can do it. Which is why we have a very sticky situation with bag-checking in Australia (Victoria) when leaving a business. Only the police have the right to stop someone and search their person or property without a warrant. Anyone else who stops someone without either a warrant, police command or 'finds committing' (you've witnessed them committing an indictable offence) and/or tries to search another person's property or person, is committing false arrest which carries some seriously nasty penalties.
In addition, if a citizen (ie. not a police officer) witnesses you shoplifting (ie. putting something in your bag and walking out of the store with it) but loses sight of that person for even the slightest instant, they have then lost 'finds committing' and can't legally arrest the offender.
In essence, this allows anyone to just steal whatever they like and walk straight out of a store with it because unless the loss prevention officers or someone else has witnessed the person concealing the item and walking out with it, without ever losing sight of them from the moment of concealment to the point of exit, you can't legally stop or search them; in fact, even if you stop them, if the person says no to a search, you can't search them at all for whatever reason. And if anyone does try, the thief can charge the person with false arrest and illegal search.
Last edited by Kzach; Sunday, 11th March, 2012 at 08:02 PM.
Monday, 12th March, 2012, 02:45 AM #44
Magsman (Lvl 14)
Here is a cool video on the subject. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik]Don't Talk to Cops, Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]
And now the sequel [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fZQWjDVKE&feature=related]Don't Talk to Cops, Part 2 - YouTube[/ame]
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