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Thursday, 24th May, 2012, 09:04 PM #11
Waghalter (Lvl 7)
I think I'm okay with full hp after resting. Just because you get back ALL hp does not mean your wounds are healed. You might still have that broken leg, but as a tough adventurer you just press on to finish that goblin tribe that caused it.
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Thursday, 24th May, 2012, 09:07 PM #12
Orcus on an Off-Day (Lvl 22)
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Really easy to house rule, but I certainly prefer a lower rate for the baseline.
The reasons to keep it "full hp" mostly boil down to simplicity, AFAICT. Which isn't an unpersuasive argument, but longer healing periods are hardly exceptionally complicated.
Buh? Full HP recovery with a night's rest actually encourages the 15-minute adventuring day. There's very little cost for resting, so there's every incentive to do it when you've blown your spells. Having it take a few days would ameliorate that.Originally Posted by Incenjucar
Thursday, 24th May, 2012, 09:10 PM #13
Thaumaturgist (Lvl 9)
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Thursday, 24th May, 2012, 09:14 PM #14
Scout (Lvl 6)
It really bothers me. Is there any in-game explanation for it?
Thursday, 24th May, 2012, 09:20 PM #15
Waghalter (Lvl 7)
Thursday, 24th May, 2012, 09:21 PM #16
The injury is based on how you want the cinematic to play out and that to me seems more like a house-rule than anything.
If the rules don't state the injuries have to be that severe i don't really see a reason to make them more severe necessarily.
If the rules were still as such that you didn't heal to full, there is nothing stating that players can't camp for days to recover. (Except random encounters. lol) I just see both sides of the argument...
If my players heal to full, then they only worry about management for that day, but as a good DM i don't have to give them a rest if i don’t want to. The rules state they can only have 1 full rest every 24 hours. If i follow that rule, then the players can't take advantage of that system. 15 minute workout day? fine. it will only hurt you as the day goes on and you use all your goodies.
If my players don't heal to full...
I still end up with the same exact scenario and options as i mentioned. The only difference being that it will end up taking more days for the players to come to full.
At least... that’s how i look at it.
Last edited by Surmos; Thursday, 24th May, 2012 at 09:32 PM.
Thursday, 24th May, 2012, 09:40 PM #17
Lama (Lvl 13)
Resting/healing was my only major gripe outside of magic, and unlike previous editions removing and replacing it doesn't seem particularly onerous, so if this 5e becomes a regular Thing, I can just go back to how AD&D does it (same with magic).
Other than those two systems I'm OK with what I've seen so far.
As I said, it reminds me of Moldvay Basic with some AD&D conceits (9 alignments, f'rex) attached. And that's OK.
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Thursday, 24th May, 2012, 09:42 PM #18
The Great Druid (Lvl 17)
I like where they're going with the "1 HP required" to heal via short/long rest. But it's not far enough, if the intent is to closer resemble older editions.
My suggested fix - so long as a PC has not gone to 0 HP or below, they can benefit from a Long Rest as written. The PC simply did not take any serious wounds.
However, once a PC has gone to 0 HP or below, they've been badly injured. They can't get the benefit of a Short Rest for the rest of that day.
When they take a Long Rest, they get their Hit Dice back, but no Hit Points. At the end of their rest, they can use their Hit Dice normally to regain Hit Points. Until the recover all their Hit Points, the don't get the regular benefits of a Long Rest.
One caveat - potent magic healing can fix the penalty for dropping below 0 HP. But let's make this interesting. Let's say your basic Cure Light Wounds (or Potion of Healing) isn't potent enough, thus making the higher level Cure spells mean a bit more.
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Thursday, 24th May, 2012, 09:47 PM #19
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Thursday, 24th May, 2012, 09:48 PM #20
Scout (Lvl 6)