How did Trek Become Such a Phenomenon?

sabrinathecat

Explorer

• Jul 20, 2013

• #51

Oh yeah. I liked that show. They did a pretty good job with crap budget. Best of all, they finally released it on DVD.

 

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Umbran

Mod Squad

Staff member

Supporter

• Jul 20, 2013

• #52

sabrinathecat said:

Both had a major female character recast/replaced (Ivanova for Lockley/the trill woman for another host).

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This has NOTHING to do with stolen ideas. Neither was planned. The actresses left the show, which left gaps the writers had to fill.

 

sabrinathecat

Explorer

• Jul 20, 2013

• #53

Yes. Unfortunately, Lockley was no Ivanova. More to the point, whatshername was no Claudia.

 

frankthedm

First Post

• Jul 20, 2013

• #54

Umbran said:

If you want to discuss what good we can do by 30 or 40 years from now, you have to address current problems - and that makes your show political.

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So was Star Trek. Specific ideologies were being pushed by the show. One only need look at the casting.

 

billd91

Not your screen monkey (he/him)

• Jul 20, 2013

• #55

frankthedm said:

One only need look at the casting.

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Meaning?

 

sabrinathecat

Explorer

• Jul 20, 2013

• #56

1966: interracial cast ("black", asian, russian, irish, scottish, "american" white, green-blooded half-breed alien, and Southerner)
Space hippies (only Spock, an alien, can understand them)
first interracial kiss
tribbles/rabbits
Anti-imperialism
Anti-communism
Anti-facism
non-interference (if only in lip-service)
Yeah, nothing at all political about TOS. /sarchasm

 

SkidAce

Legend

Supporter

• Jul 20, 2013

• #57

Ahnehnois said:

Bottom line is DS9 did it better. Better actors, better characters, better design, better effects, better music, and better TV overall.

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I dispute your assertion Sir (throws glove down on the ground)

Pistols at dawn...

 

Ahnehnois

First Post

• Jul 20, 2013

• #58

SkidAce said:

I dispute your assertion Sir (throws glove down on the ground)

Pistols at dawn...

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Pistols? I'll just throw my DS9 DVD cases at you. Those things are quite substantial.

Not backing down off that one.

 

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Janx

Hero

• Jul 20, 2013

• #59

sabrinathecat said:

Yes. Unfortunately, Lockley was no Ivanova. More to the point, whatshername was no Claudia.

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Ivanova the character was fine. According to legend, Claudia was a major primadonna to work with.

 

sabrinathecat

Explorer

• Jul 20, 2013

• #60

Janx said:

Ivanova the character was fine. According to legend, Claudia was a major primadonna to work with.

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Not as big a problem as Boxleitner's bratty kids though. They were terrors around the studio.