locking garrote for rogues

00durrin · Mar 8, 2003

under the rules for using the garrote it says that if you succeed with the grapple check the opponent is considered grappled.
in the case of the locking garrote does this mean the rogue can step back and start sneak attacking?
this makes sense to me because as long as the opponent is trying to get that thing off their neck they aren't going to be much good at defending against well placed strikes
if your friend is grappling them you can sneak attack at will, so why not if your garrote is grappling them?

another question. what about if you're already grappling someone and then try to garrote them? what are the rules for that?

does the locking variation of the garrote add your str bonus to damage every round after you've let go?

thanks for the answers guys

00durrin · Mar 10, 2003

gosh, sorry to double post, but it's been a couple days since i asked and i still haven't gotten a single answer

Hypersmurf · Mar 10, 2003

in the case of the locking garrote does this mean the rogue can step back and start sneak attacking?

Yes. When grappled, you're denied your Dex bonus to attacks from outside the grapple, so you're vulnerable to sneak attacks.

-Hyp.

Lothar · Mar 10, 2003

The rules state that you get sneak attack damage when your opponent is denied their dex bonus. A locking garrote grapples, which does that. So, yes.

The real question is whether sneak attack damage is added to the garrotes attack roll on successive rounds.

00durrin · Mar 10, 2003

well also...does your str damage apply every round on the locking garrotte after you let go?

Geoff Watson · Mar 10, 2003

Locking Garottes are grossly overpowered. Expect your DM to ban them after he finds out how silly they are (or for every opponent to have a gorget (+10AC vs garottes)).

Geoff.