DPR King Candidates 3.0

nelphine said:

First: Credit to all those before who worked on the supercharger chassis. Also, if anyone who has a supercharger thread (or even LDB, or anyone else, with their fighter handbooks) thinks that I am stepping too much on their toes, let me know and I'll move this thread to a better location.

Second: This is only a look at what the supercharger can achieve at the moment. In the DPR Kings 2 thread I tossed up a bizarre Warlock charger who reaches 134 DPR; but I wanted to do something a little more playable. The following Real Supercharger can achieve 160 DPR.

Third: This is definitely a work in progress, as the feat order is non-existent, my lower level snap shots aren't around, and the defences will definitely have to be increased at the cost of some damage. But we'll show you the pure offensive version first just as a starting point.


The Purely Offensive At-Will Supercharger (160 DPR):
Warforged Two Handed Talent Fighter(Barbarian)/Warforged Juggernaut/Reincarnate Champion (Dragonborn/Storm Genasi)
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Str 18->30, Con 13->20, Dex 13->18, Int 8->10, Wis 10->12, Cha 10->12

Spear Expertise, Silvery Glow, Gouge Proficiency, Beserker's Fury, Hewing Charge, Wintertouched
Lasting Frost, Deadly Axe, Impaling Spear, Reckless Attacker, Reckless Charge, Power Attack
Axe Mastery, Draconic Arrogance, Shocking Flame, Long Stride, Overpowering Charge, Surprising Charge

Wicked Strike, Martial Supremacy

+6 Frost Gouge, Iron Armbands, Siberys Shard of Frost, Gloves of Ice, War Ring, Ring of Giants, Horned Helm

To Hit:
+15 lvl +10 str +6 enh +3 feat +2 prof +2 charge +2 CA +1 Weapon Talent -2 Wicked Strike -2 Power Attack = +37 vs Ref 42, roll twice
= 19% crit, 77% hit

Damage:
4d5+4 base +10 str +10 Wicked Strike +3 expertise +4 feat +5 hewing charge +5 vuln +9 power attack +4 shocking flame +2d5+2 surprising charge +6 enh +6 item +5 shard +4 gloves +3d6 horned helm +2d6 juggernaut +10 draconic arrogance push +10 draconic arrogance prone = 18 +17.5 +97
= 132.5

Crit:
30+30+97 maxed damage +12 giants +6d5+6 high crit +6d6 frost weapon +1d6 war ring = 18+24.5 +175 = 217.5

MBA (From Reckless Attacker):
To Hit: +37 -2 (no charge) = +35 vs Ref 42 = 19% crit, 72% hit
Damage: 132.5 -10-10-2d6-3d6-2d5-2-5 = 82
Crit: 217.5 -27-40 = 150.5

DPR: 0.77*132.5 + 0.19*217.5 + 0.19*(0.72*82 + 0.19*150.5)
= 160.00065

Considering Str 16->28, Con 16->24, Dex 13->17, Wis 11->13
-1 to hit (-2.25% to hit or -3.25% for MBA), -3 damage (Str/Push/Prone), +6 damage (Wicked Strike/Wicked Strike/Hewing Charge), (-1/+4 MBA)
= -0.0225*132.5 - 0.19*0.0325*82 + 0.7475*3 + 0.19*0.6875*3 = -0.853225
End Result: Str 30 = better.

+6 Agile Elderscale, +6 Beserker's Badge

Defenses:
AC: 47, F: 43, R: 35, W: 33


Obvious changes would include picking up Improved Defenses, Epic Reflexes, Epic Will; I would also much rather pick up Novice Power and be a Gnoll as my second species than a Genasi, so that I could use Hurricane of Blades with a charge. However, that's at least 6 feats lost, which will probably lose 15-30 DPR on the build. Which still leaves it much higher than I ever thought a charger could get.

If anyone could post a feat order for me, that would be amazing. Also, opinions on exactly how much defense this build should pick up would be awesome, as would opinions on Gnoll+Hurricane of Blades.

Playable Version, Work in Progress - 133 DPR +34 DPR with daily +51 DPR with Dancing Greatsword

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Warforged Two Handed Talent Fighter(Barbarian)/Warforged Juggernaut/Reincarnate Champion (Dragonborn, Gnoll)

Str 18->30, Con 13->20, Dex 13->18, Int 8->10, Wis 10->12, Cha 10->12

Feat Order:
1: Spear Expertise
2: Gouge Proficiency
4: Improved Defenses
6: Silvery Glow -> Epic Will (23)
8: Hewing Charge -> Ferocious Charge (24)
10: Reckless Charge -> Wintertouched (11)
11: Lasting Frost
12: Impaling Spear
14: Beserker's Fury
16: Novice Power
18: Reckless Charge -> Axe Mastery (22)
20: Reckless Attacker -> Draconic Arrogance (21)
21: Long Step
22: Overwhelming Charge
24: Fierce Charge
26: Epic Reflexes
28: Reckless Attacker
30: Surprising Charge (see math at bottom of this spoiler to compare to other damage feats; one could also take Plate Proficiency instead)

Same Gear as pure offensive version

DPR:
To Hit: +15 lvl +10 str +6 enh +3 feat +2 prof +2 CA +1 talent +1 charge -2 Wicked Strike = +38 vs Ref 42
= 19% crit, 78.75% hit

Damage: 4d5+4 base +10 str +10 wicked strike +6 enh +6 item +5 shard +4 gloves +3d6 horned helm +2d6 juggernaut +10 draconic arrogance push +10 draconic arrogance prone +3 expertise +5 vuln = 12 +17.5 +73
= 102.5

Crit: 20 +30 +73 maxed base +12 giants +6d6 frost +1d6 war
= 159.5

MBA:
To Hit: +38 -1 = +37 vs Ref 42 = 19% crit, 77% hit

Damage: 102.5 -3d6-2d6-10-10-3 = 62
Crit: 159.5 -53 = 106.5

Surprising Charge: +2d5+2 damage on charge = +0.7875*8 + 0.19*12 = 8.58

DPR: 0.7875*102.5 + 0.19*159.5 + 0.19*(0.77*62 + 0.19*106.5) + 8.58
= 132.519

Damage Feats to consider at level 30:
Surprising Charge: +2d5+2 damage on charge = +0.7875*8 + 0.19*12 = 8.58
Deadly Axe: +6d5+6 damage on crit = +0.19*24 + 0.19*0.19*24 = 5.4264
Power Attack: -2 to hit, +9 damage on hit/crit = -0.04*97.5 - 0.19*0.05*60 +0.9375*9 + 0.19*0.91*9 = 5.5236
Reckless Charge: +1 to hit on charge = +0.0125*97.5 = 1.21875
Hewing Charge: +5 damage on charge = 0.9775*5 = 4.8875
Silvery Glow: +4 damage on hit/crit = 0.9775*4 + 0.19*0.96*4 = 4.6396

Defenses:
+6 Agile Elderscale, +6 Beserker's Badge

AC: 47, F: 46, R: 42, W: 40

Encounter 'Nova':
Charge using Ferocious Charge + Hurricane of Blades
To Hit: +38 vs AC 44 = 10% crit, 65% hit
Damage: 4d5+4 +2d5+2 +10 +10 +10 +6 +6 +5 +4 +3 +5 +3d6 +2d6 = 100.5
Crit: 30 +30 +65 +12 +7d6 = 161.5

DPR: 4 *(0.65*100.5 + 0.1*161.5)
= 325.9

4 Enc/Day:
Rain of Steel or equivalent:
2d5+2 +6 +6 +5 +4 +5 = 6 +28 = 34

5 Enc/Day:
+4 Dancing Greatsword
MBA:
To Hit: +38 -1-2-3+1 = +33 vs AC 44 = 19% crit, 56% hit

Damage: 102.5 -3d6-2d6-10-10-3-5-5-4-4d5+4+2d10 = 43
Crit: 159.5 -71 = 88.5

Reckless Attacker MBA: (0.19-0.19*0.19)*(0.19*106.5 +0.77*62)

DPR: 0.56*43 + 0.19*88.5 + (0.19-0.19*0.19)*(0.19*106.5 +0.77*62)
= 51.3563525


The Level 12 Version of the Playable Build (31-36 DPR)

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Str 23, Con 16, Dex 14

1: Spear Expertise
2: Gouge Proficiency
4: Improved Defenses
6: Silvery Glow
8: Hewing Charge
10: Reckless Charge -> Wintertouched (11)
11: Lasting Frost
12: Impaling Spear

+3 Frost Gouge, Heroic Iron Armbands of Power, +3 Badge of the Bezerker, +3 Whatever-it-is-Scale, Heroic, Siberys Shard of Frost, Heroic Horned Helm

Charge w/ Wicked Strike (eat lots of OA's, or whatever else works for you)

To Hit: +6 lvl +6 str +1 talent +3 enh +2 feat +2 prof +2 CA +1 charge -2 Wicked Strike = +21 vs Ref 24
= 5% crit, 80% hit

Damage: 2d5+2 base +6 str +3 wicked strike +2 expertise +3 feat +3 hewing charge +5 vuln +3 enh +2 item +1 shard +1d6 horned helm +1d6 juggernaut = 6+7+30 = 43

Crit: 10+12+30+3d6 = 62.5

DPR: 0.8*43 + 0.05*62.5 = 34.4 +3.125
= 35.525

Charge w/ MBA (even with push + shift, if you don't want to eat OA's, you'll usually end up targeting someone new on a regular basis; if you find this happening a lot, it's probably not even worth getting Wintertouched/Lasting Frost until much closer to epic)

To Hit: +6 lvl +6 str +1 talent +3 enh +2 feat +2 prof +1 charge = +21 vs Ref 24
= 5% crit, 80% hit

Damage: 2d5+2 base +6 str +2 expertise +3 feat +3 hewing charge +3 enh +2 item +1 shard +1d6 horned helm +1d6 juggernaut = 6+7+22 = 35

Crit: 10+12+22+3d6 = 54.5

DPR: 0.8*35 + 0.05*54.5 = 28 +2.725
= 30.725

Defenses
AC: 28, F: 29, R: 23, W: 22


Nothing to write home about, but not completely without hope either. Since you'll still be marking anyone you attack, you'll be able to do your job as a defender well; and since you are wielding a very effective gouge, your Combat Challenge/AoO's are pretty darn sweet as well, so whomever you pick on is probably going to stay with you, as is normal with a fighter. As something worth looking into, if you don't mind sacrificing ability in epic, switch around stats to get polearm momentum promptly in paragon. This will let you guarantee shift+charge attacks with Wicked Strike against the same target; but since it requires significant Wisdom, and Overwhelming Strike in Epic is strictly better, I'm not putting it in as a default choice.

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kilpatds said:

Not posted anywhere. Just a generic Valenar Half-Elf Morninglord Eternal Seeker. TO material, only good against tofu. The main trick I'd missed is the Queen's Gift item set, and the ring. (160.65 at 30th, 65.97 at 16th, 269@)

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Half-Elf Avenger(/Fighter)/Morninglord/Eternal Seeker

Str 16 (+1+1+1+1+1+1 +1+1) = 24
Con 11+2 ( +1 +1 ) = 15
Dex 13 ( +1 +1 ) = 15
Int 8 ( +1 +1 ) = 10
Wis 16 (+1+1+1+1+1+1 +1+1) = 24
Cha 10+2 ( +1 +1 ) = 14

Feats 1 Versatile Expertise
2 Valenar Weapon Training
4 Power Attack
6 Battle Awareness
8 Unarmored Agility (retrained to Armor Prof: Leather at 14)
10 IaoF (retrained to Painful Oath at level 11)
11 Versatile Master
12 MC Util Swap (battlefury) (Retrained to Armor Spec(Scale) @ 24)
14 Armor Prof(Chainmail)
16 Pervasive Light
18 TBD (Retrained to TWF @ 26)
20 TBD (Retrained to Slashing Storm at 20)
21 Hand of Divine Guidance
22 Punishing Radiance
24 Armor Prof(scale)
26 TWO
28 Font of Radiance
30 NAD Booster

Equipment
+6 Bloodiron Double Scimitar
Radiant Dragonshard (Epic)
Ring of the Radiant Storm (Gifts for the Queen)
Crown of the Brilliant Sun
Spark Slippers
Epic IAoP
Ring of Giants x2
Manyfingered Glove

Rules notes:
Gifts of the Queen's damage bonus triggers (clearly) on radiant damage
rolls from Radiant POWERS. Thanks to Painful Oath, Twin Strike has
the radiant keyword, even though only one attack will do radiant damage.
Same for the Radiant Dragonshard (but less clear there).

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-- Level 30 (160.65)
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Ring of Radiant Storm:
2d6 = 8.37
6d10 = 42.16
6d10+3d6 = 55.16

To Hit:
+15 Level
+ 7 Str
+ 6 Magic
+ 3 Expertise
+ 2 Prof
- 2 Power Attack
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+31 (target 44)
64% chance w/ oath.
19% chance to crit

Damage
+ 9 Power Attack (stout double weapon)
+ 6 Enhancement
+ 6 Iron Armbands (Item)
+ 6 Battlefury Stance
+ 5 Radiant Dragonshard
+ 4 Valenar Weapon Training
+ 3 Gifts of the Queen
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+39

Every Crit
+6d10 (Bloodiron)
+6d10 (Next round, pulled out as a separate damage roll)
+3d6 (High Crit)
+12 (Ring of Giants)
+12 (Ring of Giants)
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=(+6d10+3d6+24)+6d10
=79.16 + 42.16
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=121.32

BA (with vulnerability)
0.64 * (8.37 + 39 + 10 + 7) + 0.19*(12-8.37+121.32)
=64.9373

Crit (1/turn)
+10+10 (Font of Radiance and Vulnerability)
+64.9373 (Basic Attack)
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84.9373

Twin Strike, starting cold
2*(0.64 * (8.37 + 39) + 0.19*(12-8.37+121.32))
108.1145

Twin Strike, starting hot
2*(0.64 * (8.37 + 39 + 10) + 0.19*(12-8.37+121.32))
120.9146

Chance of hitting at all on the last round: 1-0.6^4 = 87.04%

Twin Strike DPR
0.8704 * 120.9147 + 0.1296 * 108.1145
119.25579408

Chance of critting at all on this round: 1-0.9^4: 34.39%
Crit 1/round damage
.3439 * 84.9373
29.20993747

Chance of hitting at all on this round: 87.04%
+7 (Painful Oath. Attack already pinged Vulnerability)
+7 (Slashing Storm)
0.8704 * 14 = 12.1856

DPR:
119.25579408 + 29.20993747 + 12.1856
160.65133155

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-- Level 16 (65.97)
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Equipment
+3 Jagged Double Scimitar
Radiant Dragonshard (Paragon)
Paragon IAoP
Ring of Giants x1

Ring of Radiant Storm:
1d6 = 4.47
2d6 = 8.37

To Hit:
+ 8 Level
+ 5 Str
+ 3 Magic
+ 2 Expertise
+ 2 Prof
- 2 Power Attack
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+18 (target 30)
69.75% chance w/ oath.
19% chance to crit

Damage
+ 6 Power Attack (stout double weapon)
+ 3 Enhancement
+ 4 Iron Armbands (Item)
+ 4 Battlefury Stance
+ 3 Radiant Dragonshard
+ 3 Valenar Weapon Training
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+23

Every Crit
+2d6 (High Crit)
+6 (Ring of Giants)
-----------
= 8.37 + 6 = 14.37
= 14.37

Crit (1/turn)
+10 (Jagged, assume makes first save)
--------
=10

Twin Strike, starting cold
2*(0.6975 * (4.47 + 23) + 0.19*(6-4.47+14.37))
= 44.36265

Twin Strike, starting hot
2*(0.6975 * (4.47 + 23 + 10) + 0.19*(6-4.47+14.37))
= 58.31265

Chance of hitting at all on the last round: 1-0.45^4 = 95.899375/4.100625

Twin Strike DPR
0.95899375 * 58.31265 + .04100625 * 44.36265
= 57.740612813

Chance of critting at all on this round: 1-0.9^4: 34.39%
Crit 1/round damage
.3439 * 10
=3.439

Chance of hitting at all on this round: 97.44%
+5 (Painful Oath)
.95899375 * 5 = 4.79496875

DPR:
= 57.740612813 + 3.439 + 4.79496875
= 65.974581563

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mellored said:

I put up 2 builds. Both item independant.

Basics Tactic:
Oath, attack with word of exchange (protection) to make the target easier to hit and enable rune of vengence (even if you miss). The wait for an ally to hit, and smack it with overwhelming strike for a solid 2 attacks per turn.

Extras:
Painful oath adds to runepriest and avenger attacks (it's 1/turn, so it'll work on the reaction).
Supplement with avenger minor (not immediate) action attacks (fury's advance, soul forged hammering).
Runepriest powers will help allies hit your target (word of exchange, rune of the conquering sign).
You can heal adds more damage and primes your vengance rune (when you use a daily).
Warlord Friendly with a strong MBA.

Defiant Defender has massive defenses it uses at-will prone to keep enemies nearby. This works best with a ranged heavy party where you can take point and allies can trigger your bonus from a distance. If you have a melee ally, try to go right before him so you can hit, he can hit, then you can overwhelming strike prone, then he can shift away.

Also, when you are missed, you get +Wis for all your attacks. Unload soulforge hammering, and fury's assault.
Defiant Defender

Race: Minotaur: Minotaur and longtooth shifter both have +2 to Str and Wis.
Class: Hybrid, Avenger, Runepriest: Basis of the build
Runepriest Option: Defiant Word: +Wis to damage when missed, no issue with hybrids, and works for all attacks that round
Background: Auspicious Birth:
Paragon Path: Hammer of Vengance: Provides us with a repeatable off action attack
Epic Destiny: Destined Scion: Hitting is good.

Starting Stats
Str 16 Con 11 Dex 13 Int 10 Wis 16 Cha 8

Final Stats
Str 28 Con 13 Dex 15 Int 12 Wis 28 Cha 10

Defenses:
AC: 47 Fort: 50 Ref: 44 Will: 51

Feats:
1: Hybrid Talent (Runepriest Armor Profiency): Very solid Scale + Shield
2: Flail Expertise: Overwhelming strike prones.
4: Power of Skill: Our OA get's a double roll and prones.
6:
8: Heavy Shield
10: Battle Awareness: Prereq, also Covers the times we won't have a Rune of Vengance
11: Painfull Oath: This has no hybrid issues, and will add to runepriest attacks as well
12: Superior Will
14: Superior Fortitude
16: Lightning Reflex (retrain to Superior Reflex at 21)
18: Ubiquitous Shield (retrain to Scale Specialization at 22)
20: Encouraging Shield
21: Slashing Storm: Highly likely to hit at least once, so make a nice zone for yourself.
22: Epic Fortitude
24: Epic Reflex
26: Epic Will
28: Mythic Senses
30: Stout Shield

At-Will:
Overwhelming Strike: Oath benifit on MBA, and provides some much needed positioing and control.
Word of Exchange: Used in protection, it helps our allies hit, which let's us hit again.

Equipment: Alhulak +6, Heavy Shield, Scale +6, Amulet of Protection +6

Defiant DPR 69.28

Assuming 2 attacks per turn
Assuming Oath of emnitiy on Overwhelming Strike
Assuming Painfull Oath on both attacks
Assuming Word of Defiant, or slashing storms (they stack, but are both situational)
Assuming +2 to hit from CA, or word of exchange (they stack, but are both situational)

Word of Exchange:
39 vs AC, (35% miss, 60% hit, 5% crit)
1d8 + 9(str) + 6 (enh) + Wis (9) + Wis (9) = 37.5
Crit: 8 + 9 + 6 + 9 + 9 + 6d6 (21) = 62

Overwhelming Strike:
39 vs AC roll twice (12.25% miss, 87.75% hit, 9.75% crit)
Overwhelming Strike: 2d8 + 9 (wis) + 6 (enh) + wis (9) + wis (9) = 42
Crit: 16 + 9 + 6 + 9 + 9 + 6d6(21) = 70

37.5 * .60 + 62 * .05 + 42 * .87.75 + 70 * .0975 = 69.28



Serene Killer focuses more on damage. Using Serene instead of defiant allows you to take something else for your hybrid talent. In this case, censure of unity. Better in melee heavy parties, this build is designed for everyone to group up on 1 target and decimate it.

Serene Killer

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Killer Bee, level 30
Longtooth Shifter, Runepriest/Avenger, Hammer of Vengeance (PH3), Destined Scion
Runic Artistry Option: Serene Blade
Hybrid Avenger Option: Hybrid Avenger Reflex
Hybrid Talent Option: Avenger's Censure (Hybrid)
Avenger's Censure Option: Censure of Unity
Epic Heroism Option: Strength
Epic Heroism Option: Wisdom
Associate: Trained Young Owlbear
Auspicious Birth (Auspicious Birth Benefit)
Theme: Fey Beast Tamer

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
STR 28, CON 13, DEX 15, INT 10, WIS 28, CHA 12

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
STR 16, CON 11, DEX 13, INT 8, WIS 16, CHA 10


AC: 43 Fort: 43 Ref: 37 Will: 46
HP: 186 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 46

TRAINED SKILLS
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +17, Arcana +15, Athletics +26, Bluff +16, Diplomacy +16, Dungeoneering +24, Endurance +18, Heal +24, History +15, Insight +24, Intimidate +16, Nature +24, Perception +24, Religion +15, Stealth +17, Streetwise +16, Thievery +17

POWERS
Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack
Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack
Longtooth Shifter Racial Power: Longtooth Shifting
Runepriest Feature: Rune of Mending
Avenger Feature: Oath of Enmity
Avenger Attack 1: Overwhelming Strike
Runepriest Attack 1: Word of Exchange
Runepriest Utility 2: Rune of the Final Effort
Avenger Utility 2: Loyal Sanction
Runepriest Attack 3: Fury's Advance. Symbol of Wrath Reversed also a quality option.
Avenger Attack 5: Bond of Foresight Opportunity action don't interfear.
Runepriest Utility 10: Protective Scroll
Hammer of Vengeance (PH3) Attack 11: Avenging Hammer Possibly replace with reserve manuver
Hammer of Vengeance (PH3) Utility 12: Shield of Vengeance
Avenger Utility 16: Summons to Duty Helps ensure we have an ally nearby.
Avenger Attack 17: Soulforge Hammering
Runepriest Attack 19: Rune of Warding Light
Hammer of Vengeance (PH3) Attack 20: Vengeance's End
Runepriest Utility 22: Rune of the Hero's Resolve
Runepriest Attack 23: Rune of Rising Fury Word of healing assault is also a quality option.
Runepriest Attack 25: Rune of the Conquering Sign
Destined Scion Utility 26: Epic Recovery
Destined Scion Utility 30: Undeniable Victory

FEATS
Level 1: Hybrid Talent
Level 2: Light Blade Expertise
Level 4: Unarmored Agility
Level 6: Improved Defenses
Level 8: Power of Skill
Level 10: Spiked Chain Training +3, light blade, dual, and with avenging resolve, it's a 1d12.
Level 11: Painful Oath
Level 12: Weapon Focus (Light blade)
Level 14: Avenging Resolution
Level 16: Divine Distraction Incentive to attack your target
Level 18: Two-Weapon Fighting
Level 20: Two-Weapon Opening
Level 21: Hand of Divine Guidance
Level 22: Righteous Focus More incentive to attack your target
Level 24: Epic Resurgence
Level 26: Divine Mastery
Level 28: Triumphant Attack
Level 30: Nimble Blade

ITEMS
Magic Dragoncloth Armor +6 x1
Amulet of Protection +6 x1
Magic Spiked chain +6 x1
====== End ======


Serene Killer Damage 103.4687

Assuming flanking (CA) with your owl bear.
Assuming 1 other ally is adjacent.
Not assuming triuphant attack or word of exchange.

40 vs AC. (70%, 10% crit)
6.5 (2d4 + AR) + 9 (wis) + 6 (enh) + 3 (feat) + 1 (twf) + 3 (expertise) + 6 (unity) + 9 (PO) + 2 (owlbear) = 45.5

41 vs AC. (93.75%, 19% crit)
13 (4d4 + AR) + 9 (wis) + 6 (enh) + 3 (feat) + 1 (twf) + 3 (expertise) + 6 (unity) + 9 (PO) + 2 (owlbear) +1 (con) = 53

Crit: 52- 9 (painful oath) = 43 * 96% (triumphant attack, i'm not recursing) = 41.28 + 3 (max dice) + 21 (6d6) = 65.28

45.5 * .7 + 65.28 * .1 = 38.378
53 * .93.75 + 65.28 * .19 = 62.0907
+3 (divine distraction)
= 103.4687


KPR 0.564723106

Between soulforged hammering, fury's assualt, epic resurgence and divine mastery i'm just going to assume 1 extra attack per turn.

45.5 -9 (painful oath) =
36.5 * .91 + 65.28 * .19
= 45.6182
+103.4687
= 149.0869 / 264
= 0.564723106


Other thoughts:
Variants: Serene with Armor of Faith could make a nice balanced build.
Items: It's very easy to boost damage with some items. Iron armbands of power is a given. Frost is a classic. Symbol of victory is an easy bonus.
Stats: You could drop Wis a bit since avengers reroll. This can open up other races.

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auspex7 said:

Been a little lazy, but I've basically had this one done since a half hour after I saw the July Errata. As a general rule, I try to respond to errata by finding something better (Avenger/SoC/Sage dies, Avenger/Ardent Champion/Sage of Ages is born... that one dies... this happens...). So, here it is:

Slap Chop, Githzerai Avenger/Ardent Champion/Demigod, pimped out for max At-Will DPR.

L30 CB Summary
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SlapChop, level 30
Githzerai, Avenger, Ardent Champion, Demigod
Avenger's Censure: Censure of Pursuit
Versatile Expertise: Versatile Expertise (Heavy Blade)
Versatile Expertise: Versatile Expertise (Holy Symbol)
Divine Spark: Divine Spark Dexterity
Divine Spark: Divine Spark Wisdom

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 16, Con 15, Dex 26, Int 12, Wis 28, Cha 10.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 14, Con 13, Dex 14, Int 10, Wis 16, Cha 8.


AC: 46 Fort: 36 Reflex: 41 Will: 42
HP: 203 Surges: 9 Surge Value: 50

TRAINED SKILLS
Religion +22, Athletics +28, Perception +30, Stealth +29

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +25, Arcana +16, Bluff +15, Diplomacy +15, Dungeoneering +24, Endurance +17, Heal +24, History +16, Insight +24, Intimidate +15, Nature +24, Streetwise +15, Thievery +23

FEATS
Level 1: Githzerai Blade Master
Level 2: Unarmored Agility
Level 4: Versatile Expertise
Level 6: Power of Skill
Level 8: Battle Awareness
Level 10: Power of Strength
Level 11: Painful Oath
Level 12: Deadly Draw
Level 14: Paragon Defenses
Level 16: Power Attack
Level 18: Devastating Critical
Level 20: Pervasive Light
Level 21: Hand of Divine Guidance
Level 22: Slashing Storm
Level 24: Font of Radiance
Level 26: Punishing Radiance
Level 28: Triumphant Attack
Level 30: Enmity Shared

POWERS
Avenger at-will 1: Overwhelming Strike
Avenger at-will 1: Avenging Shackles
Avenger encounter 1: Angelic Alacrity
Avenger daily 1: Aspect of Might
Avenger utility 2: Distracting Flare
Avenger encounter 3: Fury's Advance
Avenger daily 5: Bond of Foresight
Avenger utility 6: Aspect of Agility
Avenger encounter 7: Relentless Stride
Avenger daily 9: Temple of Shadow
Avenger utility 10: Wings of Vengeance
Avenger encounter 13: Avenger's Demand (replaces Angelic Alacrity)
Avenger daily 15: Aspect of Fury (replaces Temple of Shadow)
Avenger utility 16: Astral Cloak
Avenger encounter 17: Vengeful Parry (replaces Avenger's Demand)
Avenger daily 19: Oath of the Inevitable Blade (replaces Aspect of Might)
Avenger utility 22: Twin Step
Avenger daily 25: Aspect of Death (replaces Bond of Foresight)
Avenger daily 29: Final Oath (replaces Aspect of Fury)

ITEMS
Siberys Shard of Radiance (epic tier), Bloodiron Fullblade +6, Flowform Starweave Armor +6, Timeless Locket +6, Iron Armbands of Power (epic tier), Many-Fingered Gloves (paragon tier), Ring of Giants (paragon tier) (2), Ring of the Radiant Storm (paragon tier), Crown of the Brilliant Sun (paragon tier), Spark Slippers (paragon tier), Symbol of Victory +2
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Attack & Damage Breakdown

Go-To At-Will: Overwhelming Strike
Base: +36 vs AC, 2d12+29
Actual: +36 vs AC, 2d12+55, from a cold start.

Attack Breakdown:
+9, Wis
+15, 1/2 Level
+3, Proficiency
+6, Enhancement
+3, Expertise/feat bonus

Total base: +36

+2, Combat Advantage-- applicable on first attack via Enmity Shared, sustained via Deadly Draw.
-2, Power Attack

Total actual: +36

Damage Breakdown:
+9, Wis
+6, item-Iron Armbands of Power
+6, Enhancement
+4, Power of Strength
+4, Githzerai Blademaster

Total Base: +29

+5, Siberys Shard of Radiance
+3, set bonus, Gifts for the Queen set-- 3 pieces: Ring of the Radiant Storm, Crown, Slippers.
+9, Wis- Painful Oath
+9, Power Attack

Total Actual: +55


Extra damage considerations

On-Crit:
-- Target gains vuln: 10 Radiant UENT (factored here as +10 damage UENT)
-- Target gains -2 to all defenses and -2 to hit (Factored here as +2 to hit)
-- Font of Radiance + Punishing Radiance = 3d6 (save ends) +10 UENT. Factored here as: 3d6+10, assuming the target always saves on first attempt. Note: actual average from this is higher.
-- Bloodiron carry-over
-- 2 x Ring of Giants =+24 damage

-- 1/turn Overwhelming Strike, via Ardent Fury + Power of Skill. +38 vs AC, 2d12+44
Attack & Damage Breakdown

Attack:
+9, Wis
+15, 1/2 Level
+3, Proficiency
+3, Expertise
+6, Enchantment
+2, Combat Advantage
+2, Triumphant Attack
-2, Power Attack

Damage:
+9, Wis
+9, Power Attack
+4, Githzerai Blademaster
+6, item- Iron Armbands of Power
+6, Enchantment
+10, vuln: Radiant + Pervasive Light



Slashing Storm: +9 damage, applied 89.3% of the time (as per hit %)
-- Alternative: The target shifts, teleports, or moves away. If this happens, the Avenger charges, and gains +14 damage UENT from Censure of Pursuit. The charge is made at: +37 vs AC, 2d12+65 damage.


At-Will DPR: 141.18*, assuming the target remains adjacent.
-- Alternative/assuming target moves away to avoid Slashing Storm: 144.41.
Note: Actual At-Will DPR is higher than listed. These numbers do not include Ring of the Radiant Storm calcs, do not carry over Punishing Radiance to subsequent turns, they assume that Font of Radiance is saved against on the first attempt, etc. If I had to guess, I would assume that the actual DPR is above 150. RotRS alone should bump it up by about 3 points, I think.
*Edited to add... Note: Factoring in the Ring of the Radiant Storm (but none of the other elements I left on the table), the DPR for this comes out to.... 144


In conclusion...


Don't fight him, or this happens...
<beat up woman>

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corwynn said:

Bending the rules quite a bit on this one... so it is not in consideration for this thread. But I needed somewhere to place it

I'm assuming some things:
* The target has Frost Vulnerabilty every round due to Lasting Frost (seems a typical assumption)
* You play LFR (3 combats per scenario)
* You've already cast either Stinking Cloud or Wall of Fire (math below assumes Stinking Cloud)
* You use Improved Tome of Readiness to prepare one of the those two spells every combat.
* You can position yourself to push the foe into your zone with Thunderwave. Hence the Wyvern mount.
* You use a Tempest Whetstone on your main-hand implement (hence that's 3 daily magic item uses) -- it's only used to add the Lightning keyword.

This is single-target DPR, every round, for 3 combats (LFR scenario).

16th level Wizard, Paragon Path of your choice

Ability Scores:
Str 14, Con 13, Dex 13, Int 24, Wis 15, Cha 9

Feats:
Elemental Empowerment
Arcane Implement Proficiency (Light Blades)
Implement Expertise (Light Blades)
Superior Implement Training (Lancing Dagger)
Weapon Focus (Light Blades)
Wintertouched
Two-Weapon Fighting
Improved Tome of Readiness
Dual Implement Spellcaster
Lasting Frost

Gear:
+3 Lancing Frost Dagger (main hand)
+4 Magic Dagger (off hand)
Wyvern
Gloves of Ice (Paragon Tier)
Siberys Shard of the Mage (Paragon Tier)
Tempest Whetstone (x3)
Rushing Cleats

Attack Bonus Sources:
+8 (Levels)
+7 (Intelligence)
+3 enhancement (+3 weapon)
+2 (Combat Advantage)
+2 (Implement Expertise)

Damage Bonus Sources:
+7 (Intelligence)
+3 (Siberys Shard of the Mage)
+2 Elemental Empowerment
+3 enhancement (+3 implement)
+5 Frost vulnerability
+3 Lancing dagger (lightning)
+4 dual implement (+4 implement)
+2 (Gloves of Ice)
+2 feat (Weapon Focus)
+1 (Two-Weapon Fighting)

Attack: +22 vs. Fort with CA
Thunderwave: 1d6+32 cold & lightning damage
Crit Thunderwave: 3d6+2d10+38 cold & lightning damage
Enter Stinking Cloud: 1d10+32 cold & lightning damage
Start in Stinking Cloud: 1d10+32 cold & lightning damage

DPR: (0.65)*(35+37+37) + (0.05)*(59+37+37) = 70.85 + 6.65 = 77.5 DPR

This is single-target DPR.

You actually do more single-target DPR if you hit 2 targets, due to the Tempest Whetstone (which was not included above). And for 2 out of the 3 combats you'd actually be using Wall of Fire instead.

EDIT: or you can lower Str, increase Wis, and push 4 with Thunderwave instead of push 3, and do 75.4 DPR single-target DPR instead. Or also sub Gauntlets of the Ram for Gloves of Ice and do roughly ~70 DPR with a push 5. Not sure if there is anything else that would increase the push.

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styrx said:

Striker of Pelor

King of Lvl 16, 75.02 DPR

Submission: King of Lvl 16
Revision: 1.2
Class/Race: Hybrid Longtooth Shifter Avenger/Invoker MC Fighter PP Kensei
Final Ability Scores: Str 14, Con 11, Dex 18, Int 11, Wis 24, Cha 9
Powers: Sun Strike
Feats: Weapon Focus (Staff), Versatile Expertise, Power of the Sun, Distant Vengeance, Wintertouched, Battle Awareness, Painful Oath, Lasting Frost, Two-Weapon Fighting, Pervasive Light
Items: Pelor's Sun Blessing (level 3), The Raven Queen's Shroud (level 3), Frost Quarterstaff +3, Siberys Shard of Merciless Cold (paragon tier), Gloves of Ice (paragon tier), Battle Harness Cloth Armor (Basic Clothing) +1, Blood Fury Handaxe +1, Eagle Eye Goggles (paragon tier), Bracers of the Perfect Shot (paragon tier), Symbol of Divine Light +4, Frozen Whetstone (heroic tier) (10)
Setup: Have Kensei Focus for the Quarterstaff. Get Longtooth Shifting with Bloodfury Handaxe. Hit to get +17 damage with Power of the Sun (and Symbol of Divine Light) and Pelor's Sun Blessing, and to get +5 damage with Lasting Frost and CA with Wintertouched. Have enough Frozen Whetstones.
Attack: Sun Strike vs Oath of Enmity with Distant Vengeance and Frost Quarterstaff
Intention: Use Ranged Basic Attack of a Hybrid Class with Distant Vengeance.
Based on: -

Revisions

1.1 Added The Raven Queen's Shroud Boon to get an reroll on one damage die per turn against the marked oath of enmity. It could be seen like a brutal 4 property for the 1d8 dice of the Sun Strike.
1.2 Pit Fighter replaced with Kensei Paragon Path.

Math

Sun Strike:
Hit (+25 vs Reflex 28, two rolls): 7 (Wisdom) + 8 (1/2 level) + 3 (Enhancement) + 2 (versatile Expertise) + 2 (Item, Eagle Eye Goggles) + 2 (CA, Wintertouched) + 1 (Kensei Focus) = 89.3% crit 9.7%
DPH: 4.5 crit 8 (Sun Strike) + 1 (Brutal 4, The Raven Queen's Shroud) + 7 (Wisdom) + 3 (Enhancement) + 2 (Weapon Focus) + 4 (Item, Bracers of the Perfect Shot, Heroic) + 5 (Lasting Frost Vulnerability) + 7 (Pelor's Sun Blessing) + 10 (Power of the Sun Vulnerability, Paragon & Symbol of Divine Light) + 7 (Pain of Oath) + 10 (Pervasive Light & Symbol of Divine Light) + 3 (Siberys Shard of Merciless Cold, Paragon) + 2 (Gloves of Ice) + 2 (Frozen Whetstone) + 2 (Longtooth Shifting) + 1 (Two-Weapon Fighting) + 4 (Kensei Mastery) + 0 crit 10.5 (Frost Quarterstaff) = 74.5 crit 87.5
DPR: (.893)(74.5) + (.097)(87.5) = 75.02

King of Lvl 12, 52.55 DPR

Submission: King of Lvl 12, 52.55 DPR
Revision: 1.4
Class/Race: Hybrid Human Avenger/Invoker MC Seeker PP Crimson Hunter
Final Ability Scores: Str 14, Con 11, Dex 11, Int 18, Wis 20, Cha 9
Powers: Sun Strike
Feats: Primal Sharpshooter, Weapon Focus (Staff) (retrained to Primal Eye), Versatile Expertise, Power of the Sun, Distant Vengeance, Wintertouched, Alertness (retrained to Pervasive Light), Painful Oath, Lasting Frost
Items: Pelor's Sun Blessing (level 3), The Raven Queen's Shroud (level 3), Bracers of the Perfect Shot (heroic tier), Eagle Eye Goggles (heroic tier), Frost Quarterstaff +3, Siberys Shard of Merciless Cold (paragon tier), Gloves of Ice (paragon tier)
Setup: Minor Action to focus Oath of Enmity, Minor to mark the oath as the mark of the Raven Queen, Standard Action to Hit to get +11 damage with Power of the Sun and Pelor's Sun Blessing, and to get +5 damage with Lasting Frost and CA with Wintertouched.
Attack: Sun Strike vs Oath of Enmity with Distant Vengeance and Frost Quarterstaff
Intention: Use Ranged Basic Attack of a Hybrid Class with Distant Vengeance.
Based on: -

Revisions

1.1 Nice side-effect, thx to the fix SongNSilence made (Pervasive Light), we get a higher DPR 48.89
1.2 Race changed to Longtooth Shifter, added Battle Harness and Blood Fury Handaxe, loosing Human Bonus Feat Hybrid Talent (Armor of Faith), now DPR 50.81
1.3 Race changed back to Human, Human Feat now Primal Sharpshooter, Weapon Focus retrained to Primal Eye, no need for Battle Harness and Blood Fury Handaxe, now 51.71 DPR
1.4 Added The Raven Queen's Shroud Boon to get an reroll on one damage die per turn against the marked oath of enmity. It could be seen like a brutal 4 property for the 1d8 dice of the Sun Strike.

Math

Sun Strike:
Hit (+20 vs Reflex 24, two rolls): 6 (Wisdom) + 6 (1/2 level) + 3 (Enhancement) + 1 (Focused Expertise) + 1 (Item, Eagle Eye Goggles) + 1 (Accurate Arrow) + 2 (CA, Wintertouched) = 88% crit 9.7%
DPH: 4.5 crit 8 (Sun Strike) + 1 (Brutal 4, The Raven Queen's Shroud) + 6 (Wisdom) + 3 (Enhancement) + 4 (Primal Eye) + 2 (Item, Bracers of the Perfect Shot, Heroic) + 5 (Lasting Frost Vulnerability) + 6 (Pelor's Sun Blessing) + 5 (Power of the Sun Vulnerability, Paragon) + 6 (Pain of Oath) + 5 (Pervasive Light) + 3 (Siberys Shard of Merciless Cold, Paragon) + 2 (Gloves of Ice) + 0 crit 10.5 (Frost Quarterstaff) = 52.5 crit 65.5
DPR: (.88)(52.5) + (.097)(65.5) = 52.5535

King of Lvl 6, 26.79 DPR

Submission: King of Lvl 6
Revision: 1.0
Class/Race: Hybrid Longtooth Shifter Avenger/Invoker
Final Ability Scores: Str 15, Con 10, Dex 10, Int 16, Wis 20, Cha 8
Powers: Sun Strike
Feats: Distant Vengeance, Power of the Sun, Superior Implement Training (Defiant rod), Versatile Expertise
Items: Pelor's Sun Blessing (level 3), The Raven Queen's Shroud (level 3), Magic Defiant rod +2, Eagle Eye Goggles (heroic tier), Bracers of the Perfect Shot (heroic tier), Blood Fury Handaxe +1, Gauntlets of Blood (heroic tier)
Setup: Get Longtooth Shifting with Bloodfury Handaxe. Hit to get additional damage with Power of the Sun and Pelor's Sun Blessing.
Attack: Sun Strike vs Oath of Enmity with Distant Vengeance
Intention: Use Ranged Basic Attack of a Hybrid Class with Distant Vengeance.
Based on: -

Revisions


Math

Sun Strike:
Hit (+12 vs Reflex 18, two rolls): 5 (Wisdom) + 3 (1/2 level) + 2 (Enhancement) + 1 (Versatile Expertise) + 1 (Item, Eagle Eye Goggles) = 84% crit 9.7%
DPH: 4.5 crit 8 (Sun Strike) + 1 (Brutal 4, The Raven Queen's Shroud) + 5 (Wisdom) + 2 (Enhancement) + 2 (Item, Bracers of the Perfect Shot, Heroic) + 5 (Pelor's Sun Blessing) + 3 (Power of the Sun Vulnerability) + 2 (Longtooth Shifting) + 2 crit 9 (Defiant Rod) + 1 (Gauntlets of Blood, Heroic, 50% in battle target is bloodied) = 27.5 crit 38
DPR: (.84)(27.5) + (.097)(38) = 26.786

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blahh said:

Here are a pair of builds at level 12. The first is as I would play it, the second is higher reliable DPR (if your DM's monsters are all really smart and never attack the warlock because they somehow know about white lotus riposte).

DPR with riposte: 115.74
DPR without riposte: 57.4

Build with Riposte

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======

Infernal striker, level 12

Githyanki, Warlock, Lyrandar Wind-Rider

Eldritch Blast: Eldritch Blast Constitution

Eldritch Pact: Infernal Pact

Arcane Implement Proficiency: Arcane Implement Proficiency (Dagger)

Arcane Admixture Damage Type: Arcane Admixture Thunder

Arcane Admixture Power: Hellish Rebuke

Background: Heretic (+2 to History)



FINAL ABILITY SCORES

Str 11, Con 22, Dex 14, Int 20, Wis 9, Cha 11.



STARTING ABILITY SCORES

Str 10, Con 17, Dex 13, Int 15, Wis 8, Cha 10.





AC: 25 Fort: 24 Reflex: 24 Will: 20

HP: 89 Surges: 12 Surge Value: 22



TRAINED SKILLS

Religion +16, Arcana +16, Thievery +13, History +20



UNTRAINED SKILLS

Acrobatics +8, Bluff +6, Diplomacy +6, Dungeoneering +5, Endurance +12, Heal +5, Insight +5, Intimidate +6, Nature +5, Perception +5, Stealth +8, Streetwise +6, Athletics +6



FEATS

Level 1: Mark of Storm

Level 2: Arcane Implement Proficiency

Level 4: Implement Expertise (Light Blade)

Level 6: White Lotus Riposte

Level 8: Improved Initiative (retrained to Arcane Admixture at Level 12)

Level 10: Dual Implement Spellcaster

Level 11: Called Shot

Level 12: White Lotus Master Riposte



POWERS

Eldritch Blast: Eldritch Blast

Warlock encounter 1: Vampiric Embrace

Warlock daily 1: The Lash's Bite

Warlock utility 2: Fast Hands

Warlock encounter 3: Fiery Bolt

Warlock daily 5: Tyrannical Threat

Warlock utility 6: Dark One's Own Luck

Warlock encounter 7: Howl of Doom

Warlock daily 9: Feast of Souls

Warlock utility 10: Ethereal Sidestep



ITEMS

Catstep Boots (heroic tier), Subtle Dagger +3, Incisive Dagger Dagger +3, Shadow Warlock Leather Armor +2, Cloak of Translocation +2








DPR Calculations

Assumptions: the character always has concealment from shadow walk (and can teleport 4 meaning it would need consistent dazes or stuns to stop this). It also benefits from prime shot and will get attacked once by the enemy (easily achieved by sitting next to an enemy).

Hellish Rebuke hit bonus:

6(Con)+6(half level)+3(enhancement bonus)+1(Prime Shot)+1(Storm Bonus Adept)+1(Implement Expertise)+2(Combat Advantage)=+20 vs Reflex

Hellish Rebuke damage (1 hit):

D6+6(Con)+3(Enhancement)+3(Offhand enhancement)+6(Storm Bonus Adept)+5(Called shot)+3(Subtle shot)=29.5 damage

Hellish Rebuke critical damage (1 hit):

3D6+6(max D6)+6(Con)+3(Enhancement)+3(Offhand enhancement)+6(Storm Bonus Adept)+5(Called shot)+3(Subtle shot)=42.5 damage



So, Hellish Rebuke vs Reflex 24:

5% crit

0.05*(Hellish Rebuke crit)*2(trigger secondary damage)=4.25

15% miss:



80% hit:

0.8*(Hellish Rebuke)*2(trigger secondary damage)=47.2

51.45 damage per Hellish Rebuke on average.

In each turn I get 1 Hellish Rebuke (Standard)+6 damage (Riposte)+Hellish Rebuke (Riposte Mastery)

Curse Damage: (1-0.15*0.15)*2D6=6.84

So DPR=6+2*51.45+6.84=115.74 with Riposte triggered

For a non-riposte turn, I get: 1 Hellish Rebuke:

Curse damage: 0.85*2D6=5.95

DPR=51.45+5.95=57.4






If you want the unavoidable route, here is the non-riposte build.

DPR: 64.55


Build

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Infernal striker, level 12
Githyanki, Warlock, Lyrandar Wind-Rider
Eldritch Blast: Eldritch Blast Constitution
Eldritch Pact: Infernal Pact
Arcane Implement Proficiency: Arcane Implement Proficiency (Dagger)
Arcane Admixture Damage Type: Arcane Admixture Thunder
Arcane Admixture Power: Hellish Rebuke
Background: Heretic (+2 to History)

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 11, Con 22, Dex 15, Int 19, Wis 9, Cha 11.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 10, Con 17, Dex 14, Int 14, Wis 8, Cha 10.


AC: 24 Fort: 24 Reflex: 23 Will: 20
HP: 89 Surges: 12 Surge Value: 22

TRAINED SKILLS
Religion +15, Arcana +15, Thievery +13, History +19

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +8, Bluff +6, Diplomacy +6, Dungeoneering +5, Endurance +12, Heal +5, Insight +5, Intimidate +6, Nature +5, Perception +5, Stealth +8, Streetwise +6, Athletics +6

FEATS
Level 1: Mark of Storm
Level 2: Arcane Implement Proficiency
Level 4: Implement Expertise (Light Blade)
Level 6: Weapon Focus (Light Blade)
Level 8: Improved Initiative (retrained to Arcane Admixture at Level 12)
Level 10: Dual Implement Spellcaster
Level 11: Called Shot
Level 12: Nimble Blade

POWERS
Eldritch Blast: Eldritch Blast
Warlock encounter 1: Vampiric Embrace
Warlock daily 1: The Lash's Bite
Warlock utility 2: Fast Hands
Warlock encounter 3: Fiery Bolt
Warlock daily 5: Tyrannical Threat
Warlock utility 6: Dark One's Own Luck
Warlock encounter 7: Howl of Doom
Warlock daily 9: Feast of Souls
Warlock utility 10: Ethereal Sidestep

ITEMS
Catstep Boots (heroic tier), Subtle Dagger +3, Incisive Dagger Dagger +3, Shadow Warlock Leather Armor +2, Cloak of Translocation +2








DPR Calculations

Assumptions: the character always has concealment from shadow walk (and can teleport 4 meaning it would need consistent dazes or stuns to stop this). It also benefits from prime shot and will get attacked once by the enemy (easily achieved by sitting next to an enemy).

Hellish Rebuke hit bonus:

6(Con)+6(half level)+3(enhancement bonus)+1(Prime Shot)+1(Storm Bonus Adept)+1(Implement Expertise)+2(Combat Advantage)+1(Nimble Blade)=+21 vs Reflex

Hellish Rebuke damage (1 hit):

D6+6(Con)+3(Enhancement)+3(Offhand enhancement)+6(Storm Bonus Adept)+5(Called shot)+3(Subtle shot)+2(Weapon Focus)=31.5 damage

Hellish Rebuke critical damage (1 hit):

3D6+6(max D6)+6(Con)+3(Enhancement)+3(Offhand enhancement)+6(Storm Bonus Adept)+5(Called shot)+3(Subtle shot)+2(Weapon Focus)=44.5 damage



So, Hellish Rebuke vs Reflex 24:

5% crit

0.05*((Hellish Rebuke crit)*2(trigger secondary damage)+12(curse))=5.05

10% miss:



85% hit:

0.85*((Hellish Rebuke)*2(trigger secondary damage)+2D6)=59.50

64.55 damage per Hellish Rebuke on average.

In each turn I get 1 Hellish Rebuke (Standard)

So DPR=64.55





Note that I am counting the trigger on all of these attacks because I can teleport 4 (including 10ft vertical) and take D10/2 damage (no prone due to catstep boots) to trigger Hellish Rebuke.

Figured those DPRs are worth mentionning, especially since against a DM who triggers white lotus the DPR goes through the roof.

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lazyphilosopher said:

I was playing around with a character concept for an upcoming campaign, after a little thought I was curious how high I could push the dpr. If I end up playing the character I think I will make it a little more balanced, but I am pretty happy with the results as far as sustainable over the top damage is concerned. As such I'm just going to include the dpr relevant aspects of this build.

Edit: I decided to follow crabcrouton’s advice and use a Blood Fury weapon to trigger Longtooth Shifting and Battle Fury Stance for an extra 2 damage and 4 damage encounter-long respectively. Then drop the weapon (free action) and pull out a Frost weapon with a Battle Harness armor before attacking. I’ve left the old calculations in place (strikethrough) and labeled the new stuff with new/edit for anyone interested in distinguishing the two.

in DPR King Candidates 2.0 template


53.575 DPR Double Sword Master (12), by Lazyphilosopher (1,6;8)
64.375 DPR Double Sword Master (12), by Lazyphilosopher (1,6,8,@)



- Build -


Race: Half-Orc Longtooth Shifter


Class: Hybrid Ranger/Fighter


Paragon: Kensai


Ability scores: Str. 23 Con. 11 Dex. 18 16 Int. 9 Wis. 14 16 Cha. 11


Feats:


1 Weapon Proficiency (Double Sword)


2 Hybrid Talent (Tempest Technique)


4 Weapon Expertise


6 Weapon Focus


8 Lethal Hunter


10 Wintertouched


11 Lasting Frost


12 Agile Tempest





At-Will: Twin Strike

Utility: Battle Fury Stance new/edit



Equipment:


Frost Double Sword +3 (Lv 13) (Found Item)


Siberys Shard of Merciless Cold (Paragon Tier) (Lv 12) (Found Item)


Gloves of Ice (Paragon Tier) (Lv 11) (Found Item)


Iron Armbands of Power (Heroic Tier) (Lv 6) (Bought 1800 gp)


Summoned Leather Armor +2 (Lv 6) (Bought 1800 gp)
Battle Harness Leather Armor +2 (Lv 9) (Bought 4200 gp) new/edit

Blood Fury Hand Axe +1 (Lv 3) (Bought 680 gp) new/edit


DPR Calculation:


To Hit with Twin Strike: +23 vs AC 26 hit 85% crit 5% miss 10%


6 (1/2 level)
6 (Strength)
3 (Double Sword proficiency)
1 (Tempest Technique)
1 (Weapon Expertise)
1 (Kensai)
3 (Enhancement)
2 (Combat advantage)


Average Damage Per Hit with Twin Strike: 23.5 29.5


3.5 (Double Sword)
5 (vulnerable 5 cold)
2 (Gloves of Ice)
2 (Tempest Technique bonus)
1 (Tempest Technique offhand bonus)
3 (Enhancement)
2 (Iron Armbands of Power)
3 (Siberys Shard of Merciless Cold)
2 (Weapon Focus)

2 (Longtooth Shifting) new/edit
4 (Battle Fury Stance) new/edit


Damage Per Hit on a Crit with Twin Strike: 36.5 42.5


6 (Double Sword)
20 (Static Damage)
10.5 (Crit Die for Frost Weapon)

2 (Longtooth Shifting) new/edit
4 (Battle Fury Stance) new/edit


Chance to do Hunter's Quarry damage per round with Twin Strike:


.85+(.85)(.1)=.935


Average damage on Hunter's Quarry: 9


Crit damage with Hunter's Quarry: 16


Chance to Crit with Hunter's Quarry:


.05+.05(.95)=.0975





Total Expected DPR:


(.85)(23.5)(2)+(.05)(36.5)(2)+(.935)(9)+(.0975)(16)=53.575

(.85)(29.5)(2)+(.05)(42.5)(2)+(.935)(9)+(.0975)(16)= 64.375

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jonathan_sicari said:

OK. I want to try a level 8 Drow Scout/Cutthroat build.

Main hand dpr 20.925
dwa dpr 19.925
bravo dpr 40.85


2 questions:
1) Since this is above level 6, it would be unfair to place you in that category as you have +1 to hit and 1 more feat, and more money than they have, therefore are you comfortable with me placing this candidate among the level 12 candidates?
2) Is bravo dpr your final DPR?



1) I made it at 8th level because that was the earliest the Cutthroat Scrutiny became available. I can do the math for a level 6 build with Bravo only and go up to 12th. And yes, that is fine.

2) Yes but that's an unprepared no action point Nova as Bravo gives you +2 to Hit and damage against "your prey" until end of next turn. However the math is off for At-Will spam due to the addition of WF: Light blades. I will fix that when I am more fully awake.

Edit OK, still tired, I hate Mondays. Switching from Diurnal weekends to my Nocturnal Work Week always messes me up. Note that my previous calculations did not include the 2nd viscous die on +2 viscous weapon Crits.

Drow Scout Bravo Level 6

Dex 20

Background: Infiltrater (+2 Stealth)
Feats: Light Blade Expertise, Two-weapon fighting, Superior Reflexes, bravo
Aspects: Lurking Spider (aspect using for these calculations as CA is assumed), Charging Ram,
Lolthtouched: Cloud of Darkness
Trained Skills: Nature, Heal, Dungeoneering, Perception, Acrobatics, Stealth, Intimidate
Utilities: Oak Skin, Reactive Shift, Replaces Leaf Wall
Equipment: (I used a budget of 6400 gp as this is the same as level +1, = and -1 magic item + the amount of gold = to level -1, I believe only the Cloak and Armbands are uncommon) Veteran's Hide armor +1; Viscous Rapier +2, Viscous Shortsword +1; Iron Armbands of Power, Cloak of Resistance +1; Headband of perception

HP: 52 AC: 22 For: 17 Ref: 22 Will: 16

Methods of Generating Combat Advantage (assumed and using aspect of lurking Spider): Superior Reflexes, Cloud of Darkness, Leaf Wall (Daily)

Main Hand bonus to hit 17 = +5 (dex) + 3 (prof) +2 (enhance) +2 (CA) + 1 (LBE) +1 (FBM) + 3 (level) (90% chance to hit)
Main Hand bonus to Damage +13 = 5 (Dex) + 2 (enhance) +2 (IAoP) + 2 (ALS) + 1 (LBE) +1 (TWF)
Avg: 17.5 Crit: 34 (21 +6.5 + 6.5)

Dual Weapon Attack bonus to hit 16 = 5 dex + 3 prof + 1 enhance + 2 CA +1 LBE + 1 FBM +3 level
(85% chance to hit)
Dual Weapon Attack bonus to damage 12 = 5 dex + 1 enhance +2 IAoP + 2 ALS +1 LBE +1 TWF
Avg: 15.5 Crit: 21.5

Attacks assume Combat Advantage against AC 20 and Aspect of the Lurking Spider.

AT-WILL DPR:
Main Hand dpr 16.575 = (.85 x 17.5) + (.05 x 34)
Dual Weapon dpr 13.475 = .9((.8 x 15.5) + (.05 x 21.5))
At-Will DPR = 30.05

Bravo at will DPR: (+2 to hit and damage "prey" until end of next turn as a minor)
main hand DPR 19.35 = (.9 x 19.5) + (.05 x 36)
DWA DPR 16.07875 = .95((.9 x 17.5) + (.05 x 23.5))
AT-will Bravo DPR = 35.42875

Bravo Nova with Action point (can be followed with Bravo AT-will DPR next round if target is not dead):
At-will Bravo DPR + Bravo Main Hand DPR (AP) = 54.77875

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tl said:

a build that is optimized for charge DPR and little less; it assumes you've been bloodied and are using Shifting. I think we could afford 1 Blood Fury weapon to become bloodied 1st thing every encounter

Longtooth Shifter Avenger 6
Str 20
Feats:
Gorebrute Charge, Powerful Charge, Avenging Resolution, Invigorating Pursuit
Items:
Avalanche Maul +2, Horned Helm

MBA
Attack: +13 vs AC
Hit: 2d6x2 + 1d6 + 15.755 (with 1s & 2s considered 3s)
breakdown
3 (lvl) + 5 (Str) + 2 (Ench) + 2 (prof) + 1 (charge)
5 (Str) + 2 (Ench) + 2 (Shifting) + 3 (Gorebrute) + 2 (Powerful) + 1.755 (Pursuit)

the odds of me hitting previous round are 0.8775, so Invigorating Pursuit should, on average, contribute 1.755 damage

DPR ~ 34.64305 (Ch)

((1-(1-0.7)^2)-(1-(1-0.05)^2))*35.755 + (1-(1-0.05)^2)*57.355 = 34.64305

Melee Dragonborn Warlock; DPR 34.15
my level 1 warlock leveled; we still need to be bloodied

Dragonborn Warlock|Fighter 6
Str 18, Cha 20
Feats:
Curse of Io's Blood, Mindbite Scorn, Hybrid Talent: Weapon Talent, WE
Items:
Avalanche Maul +2, Horned Helm

Battle Fury Stance

Maul Eldritch Strike:
Attack: +16 vs AC
Hit: 2d6x2 + 2d6 + 1d6 + 16
breakdown
3 (lvl) + 5 (Cha) + 2 (Ench) + 2 (prof) + 1 (Dragonborn Fury) + 1 (class) + 1 (charge) + 1 (WE)
5 (Cha) + 2 (Ench) + 5 (Io's Blood) + 2 (stance)

DPR = 0.8*38.5+0.05*67 = 34.15 (Ch)


longtooth shifters, while shifting, make awesome chargers with Gorebrute Charge;
brightbane's druid can also be improved if we go that way

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more or less same assumptions as before
Longtooth Shifter Druid 6
Wis 20
Feats:
Gorebrute Charge, Ferocious Tiger Form, Enraged Boar Form, Powerful Charge
Items:
Staff of the Serpent +2, Claw Gloves, Iron Armbands of Power, Horned Helm

Pounce
Attack: +14 vs Ref
Hit: 1d8 + 1d6 + 1d6 + 1d10 + 20
breakdown
3 (lvl) + 5 (Wis) + 2 (Ench) + 1 (Form) + 1 (charge) + 2 (CA)
5 (Wis) + 2 (Ench) + 2 (Shifting) + 3 (Gorebrute) + 2 (Enraged) + 2 (Ferocious) + 2 (Powerful) + 2 (Armbands)

DPR = 0.8*37+0.05*59 = 32.55 (CA, Ch)

DPR = 32.55 (CA, Ch)

and the discussion:
I think we're overthinking this. it's a DPR competition (compilation). more or less any entry will venture outside it's role into strikers (unless it's posted here only for comparison). what are leaders and defenders doing in DPR Kings thread, anyway?

I would also request separation by level back.

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