CoS SPOILER Dark Gift The Kingmaker and Tome of leadership and influence stack?
Based on the way the two effects are written, if you get the Tome of Leadership and Influence first, then the Dark Gift of the Kingmaker would not further increase your maximum stat above 22, but if you get the Dark Gift first, then the Tome would increase your maximum stat to 24 (the Tome says it increases the max by 2, while the Dark Gift simply says it increases the max to 22, which does nothing if your max is already 22).
As long as you don't exceed your max, though, you would get to stack the two bonuses to Charisma. So a character who starts with a 16 or less Charisma would get a full +6 to Charisma, regardless of the order of the two effects.
I'm assuming the Tome is available in a hardcover adventure (or maybe as a reward from a D&D Open event), because I can't think of any DDEX/DDAL adventure that awards it. (I could be wrong, though.)
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Pauper
As long as you don't exceed your max, though, you would get to stack the two bonuses to Charisma. So a character who starts with a 16 or less Charisma would get a full +6 to Charisma, regardless of the order of the two effects.
I'm assuming the Tome is available in a hardcover adventure (or maybe as a reward from a D&D Open event), because I can't think of any DDEX/DDAL adventure that awards it. (I could be wrong, though.)
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WilliamCQ
Explorer
Robert Pack
First Post
Yes they do stack and you can gain up to a max of 26 cha doing this method. Start at 18 cha some how be it ASI or some thing then go get the dark gift from CoS. This will get you to 22 cha. Then and only if you feel like risking the existence of your very char due to a disintegrate type effect you can go into maze engine which will get you 24 cha. Then use a Tome to get 26. This is BEYOND risky and I would only attempt doing this if I had a paladin in the group due to their aura but thats pretty much the biggest meta game / power play you can do lol. 26 cha on a warlock or paladin is freaking nuts
WilliamCQ
Explorer
Where/how can I do that? You might want to put a spoiler about general then get into detail.
It's somewhere in the second half of Out of the Abyss.
It's also the result of a random roll, so there's no guarantee you'll get the Charisma boost, unless your DM is willing to cheat...
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Eltab
Lord of the Hidden Layer
My (retired when I became the group DM) Tiamat Paladin says :drool:
I was turning him into artillery and playing him as a Warlord because we had so many other melee characters in the group.
WilliamCQ
Explorer
Do you mean warlock? I'm thinking it was a single-class paladin with either Magic Initiate or Spell Sniper.
Eltab
Lord of the Hidden Layer
No, a Warlord. Instead of charging to the front line, I had him cast a spell to cut off enemy retreat (Moonbeam was my favorite) and give everybody else tactical advice.
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