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    Hi Blackshirt5,

    I posted my theory of magic in my Mythus Mutters column over at d20 Magazine Rack. It's the most recent one. I hope to have magic practice (dweomercrafting) up soon.


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    Interesting topic.

    I am currently working on honing a home brew campeign's magic system from the core DnD rules, and am having some fun with it.

    I find when I am worldbuilding I like to get one idea and then flesh it out to cover all metaphysical world elements.

    On to the current example:

    I have removed the traditional DnD Abjuration, conjuration, etc, and have recategorized the mage spell list into ten groups based upon the colour spectrum. Each colour represents an aspect of the universe, and some colours are "opposed" in the manner of a standard duality.

    This idea has flowed on to having me make the seven base colours of the spectrum plus brown, white and black becoming the building blocks of the universe. The origins of gods are determined from the origins and nature of each of the colours.

    It also means I can do the "Final Fantasy" Red mage et al with magical specialists...

    In terms of how this affects divine magic, I have decided that divine magic is similar to arcane magic but is more a magic of allegience as opposed to a magic of usage. So, for example, a priest of a god alligned to the Yellow (symbolized by the concept of Aura) would have the ability to attune auras to heal, whereas a mage of the Yellow would have the ability to manipulate auras to create illusions, or at the higher level, to alter or create material things.

    I have never been overly comfortable with psionics in DnD, I think it makes DnD too much like paladium. Not that there is anything wrong with that...

    I have basically rescripted the concept of Psionics to being the same as that of a cleric without a god... so if players want it, they can have it that way. I am in the process of creating appropriate Spheres (so instead of War, Travel or Luck, they might choose Coercion, Psychokinesis or ESP). None of my players are Psi heads so this is kind of a non issue at the moment.

    One interesting side effect of this particular dose of worldbuilding is that I have decided that this world does not really hold scope for the standard alignment system, and instead a character has a blend of the colours within them that fits the allignment concept. Some spells (especially the allignment based ones) need some alteration to fit this idea, but it actually works remarkably well.

    I guess the point I am making is that a concept as fundamental as "what magic system do you use" is IMHO a really big question with a heck of a lot of implications, and really needs to be thought through. I have been running a game in this universe for some time, and this is still very much a work in progress.

    Just smile and nod, and back away slowly...

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    In my campaign, I've seen all the varieties of magic along a sprectrum:

    1) Alchemy - manipulting the inate magical qualities of materials (in my campaign, an alchemist is a modified wizard).

    2) Sorcery - using ones spirit-tainted blood to create magical effects (spirits - fey, dragons and giants - all have elemental qualities, that is, those qualities are inside one's blood).

    3) Natural magic - petitioning the "lesser" spirits for magical effects (druids and rangers, as well as clerics without a patron deity).

    4) Divine magic - petitioning the "greater" spirtis for magical effects (clerics with a patron).

    5) Psionics - tapping into the gift given to the world from Thoth, a diety so disinterested in the politics from the world, that one doesn't even have to worship him (in the traditional sense) to receive his gifts.

    So, in a sense, psionics is a type of magic which is divine, but, it also places it back next to alchemy, in the sense that it relies on the person discovering what's possible.

    Mechanically, arcane, divine and psionic magics are all considered the same. The descriptors are just convienent terms practitioners use when discussing magic. I've though about using penalties on spellcraft when examining other types of magic, but really haven't followed through on it.


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    In my campaign world, I have the magic and psionics.

    Psionics is a minority but it's stilla round.

    Arcane and Divine magic are as is of the same coin. I describe them as manipulating or being granted external energies to fuel their spells.

    Psionics is described as manipulating energies within yourself to power effects.

    While they are not the same as magic, they have impact on them and vice versa. IE Detect Magic will detect psionics, just won't know what school it is.

    At one point I had a thought of using star wars as a basis for my space travel. IF I ever come around to making it a reality in the campaign world, Psionics would be divided to Psionics and the Force. A division that is still using an internal source of energy.

    That's a big if.

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    In my Dragonlance game (yes, I know DL doesn't officially have psionics) I have psionics as a form of magic created by the warping effects of the Graystone as it past over Krynn.

    Psionics are still very rare, perhaps only one or two hundred psionic people exist worldwide.
    I'm not asking for characters to be lawful stupid. I want characters who care, who want to be heroes, aren't scared of doing the right thing, and players who try to help make the campaign more heroic.

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