GAME OF THRONES SEASON 8--Final Run-- Part 5

lowkey13 · May 16, 2019

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Mustrum_Ridcully · May 16, 2019

Gladius Legis said:
Well, Dumb & Dumber brought that on themselves. HBO wanted Season 8 to have more episodes, but Dumb & Dumber refused.

This is a common claim I see, but who is better qualified how much story they have to tell than the ones that write the story?
If they said they had something for 6 episodes, why would you assume that if they had been given more they would have written anything better, and not just made it more boring?

Gladius Legis · May 16, 2019

Mustrum_Ridcully said:
This is a common claim I see, but who is better qualified how much story they have to tell than the ones that write the story?
If they said they had something for 6 episodes, why would you assume that if they had been given more they would have written anything better, and not just made it more boring?

I wouldn't assume that because it's Dumb & Dumber and their writing has been bad since Season 5, when the series largely passed the books. But the biggest source of fatal flaws in this particular season is that it's rushed and left no room for character development to lead into its most "shocking" moments.

Maxperson · May 16, 2019

lowkey13 said:
When I watch Jaws, I root for the shark.

COME AT ME!

Strange. When I watch Jaws, I root for 007. To each his own I suppose.

Zardnaar · May 16, 2019

Season 5 looks better by comparison now. Season 6 is probably the best one in the second half of the show. Season 7 was when it started to feel rushed.

If you watch the earlier ones it's really a series of short cutscenes of around 5 or 6 minutes. That was enough to cover the plot and character development.

Leaves episode 2 as the peak of this season IMHO.

Kramodlog · May 17, 2019

MarkB said:
Bear in mind that this is a work of fiction. It's not just us who aren't the ones getting murdered - literally nobody is.

And yet some People are upset Dany burn some people. It is like I'm talking to them.

MarkB · May 17, 2019

Kramodlog said:
And yet some People are upset Dany burn some people. It is like I'm talking to them.

And ascribing real-world consequences to their opinions about fictional people.

Kramodlog · May 17, 2019

Maxperson said:
Nobody cheered mass murder(at least not pertaining to Game of Thrones).

People cheered at Dany's mass crucifixions. True story.

It's a show. It's all pretend. And nobody should be condemned for cheering something pretend on TV.

It’s a reflection of people's values and the values of our societies. Nobody cheered the rape of Sansa. Some people cheered Dany's mass crucifixions, murders by fire or by starvation. It means that in our societies it is not morally acceptable to publically condomn rape (even if some guys do praise it in some dark corner of the internet), but that praising murder is ok. And it is the case because people are ok with murder, as Sadras said so himself in this thread. Well, this what being ok with murder by a politician really means.

I like that the show gives a realistic (sort-ish) portrait of a murderous despot and how it confronts the audience with it bloodlust and morality. It is heavy handed cause the writing sucks for the TV show but it does seem to be Martin's goal.

Kramodlog · May 17, 2019

MarkB said:
And ascribing real-world consequences to their opinions about fictional people.

Hello strawman.

Maxperson · May 17, 2019

Kramodlog said:
People cheered at Dany's mass crucifixions. True story.

None of those were real. True story.

It’s a reflection of people's values and the values of our societies. Nobody cheered the rape of Sansa. Some people cheered Dany's mass crucifixions, murders by fire or by starvation. It means that in our societies it is not morally acceptable to publically condomn rape (even if some guys do praise it in some dark corner of the internet), but that praising murder is ok. And it is the case because people are ok with murder, as Sadras said so himself in this thread. Well, this what being ok with murder by a politician really means.

Cheering fiction in no way reflects any true value of society. Cheering fictional crucifixions doesn't in any way indicate that someone would cheer a real one. You are comparing apples and oranges, and it just doesn't work.