Platinum Knight; Inappropriate For Dragonlance?

MadMaxim

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My group's DM and I recently had a lengthy discussion regarding the Platinum Knight from Draconomicon, and he said he wouldn't allow it, as it didn't fit the setting very well. I asked him, why it wouldn't fit in smoothly with the setting and told me, that only the highest ranking Knights of Solamnia would become Platinum Knights. As I understand it, a Platinum Knight is a person, who has become a good friend of the metallic dragons WITHOUT being a part of the Knights of Solamnia, so I would say that his arguments don't work very well.

The character in question is an Aasmiar Paladin who would benefit very much from this prestige class, and I can't really see why he shouldn't be able to take it as long as he meets the prerequisites.

But what do you people think about the prestige class? Do you see any problems with an aasmiar paladin taking it?
 

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Tsyr

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I think if your playing an Aasmiar paladin on Krynn, enough of the basic standards of Dragonlance have already been set aside that one more wouldn't matter.
 

DanMcS

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MadMaxim said:
The character in question is an Aasmiar Paladin who would benefit very much from this prestige class, and I can't really see why he shouldn't be able to take it as long as he meets the prerequisites.

But what do you people think about the prestige class? Do you see any problems with an aasmiar paladin taking it?

The DM said no. All prestige classes are subject to DM approval before you can take them.
 

DanMcS said:
The DM said no. All prestige classes are subject to DM approval before you can take them.

Agree'd

Besides, all Prestige Classes require the character to meet nonrule-related requirements in game, such as group membership, special training excercises, quests, and so forth...

If being one of the top-ten Solamnic Knights is a prerequisites in your DM's Campaign, than thats it.

If your really bound on that Prestige-Class (you can play the friend of a good dragon without taking the PrC) than you might try to write up some story with hooks, plots and challenges that give your DM an Idea how you (and the other characters in your group.. never forget them) might get a few adventures and some intriquing storylines out of this PrC beyond a mere "I'm friend with a Dragon".
 

MadMaxim

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Of course I'll comply with my DM's ruling (and it's not my character, by the way), but I just questioned his reasons for completely rules-zeroing it.
 

DanMcS

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MadMaxim said:
Of course I'll comply with my DM's ruling (and it's not my character, by the way), but I just questioned his reasons for completely rules-zeroing it.

I don't think he did. In fact, he pretty much told you the exact track you need to take to get it. Only the highest ranking Knights of Solamnia are eligable. If you want to go for it, you have an explicit path to take to get it.
 

I don't think he did. In fact, he pretty much told you the exact track you need to take to get it. Only the highest ranking Knights of Solamnia are eligable. If you want to go for it, you have an explicit path to take to get it.



And likely for a reason. (I'm assuming the following as an example on how I might tackle this if I'd be running a Dragonlance Chronicle-- likely there are a million other reasons)


If he's prepared to run a Dragonlance Campaign, he likely read up a bit on Solamnic Knights, build them into the plot to get an authentic "Dragonlance-Feel" across and might have some rough ideas for adventures that include Solamnic Knights set aside.

Now you have a player who wants to play the friend of a Dragon (likely riding a Dragon aswell) but explicitly does not want to play a Solamnic Knight?? Not only does that player infringe on the possible character development of a Solamnic Knight that might exsist in the Chronicle, but the DM also has to come up with a whole new plot/story/background for a friendship of chromatic Dragon and Player.
One that goes beyond and above the organisation that already exsists in the setting to cater to such character concepts and he also has to include it in the setting without violeting the worlds integrity.

Thats alot of work for a single players fancy and it likely wont improve the quality of campaign. Sadly, many players are content to "just get the PrC" and leave the work behind it to the DM once they are "in".

It's also rather boring and dull work, because a concept for "Dragonfriends" or "Dragonriders" already exsists in the setting.
One that has quite a bit of material published for it too.

So by telling your players they need to be Solamnic Knights (and experienced ones at that) to take the class you can combine the players wishes ("would benefit very much from this prestige class") with the need to build a good campaign.

I think if your playing an Aasmiar paladin on Krynn, enough of the basic standards of Dragonlance have already been set aside that one more wouldn't matter.

I disagree. Playing exceptions to the rule can be very rewarding (if the DM agrees and has a story set aside for it).
But it does (IMO) pose an additional hindrance on the Platinum Knight, since being Aasimar on Krynn likely already is a major plot and an exotic feature. Combining it with a PrC that isn't heard of in the Setting than, might turn a cool character with a unique background into one that is just beyond suspension of disbelieve.

As a DM, you'll also want to cater to all your players. So if one person on the table already has the exotic Race, you'll likely want to save the exotic PrC for someone else...
If I had an Aasimar character in a Dragonlance Campaign, I'd strongly recommend a very, very typical Dragonlance-PrC to the player, in order to firmly tie the character to the world.
 
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MadMaxim

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It was certainly not my intend to leave our DM with a lot of problems with the background story and break the Dragonlance feel, but as a player and DM, I thought it could turn out to be a cool character. A protector and champion of both dragonkind and mankind. But our problem has been more or less avoided by the player's sudden urge to play a human swashbuckler instead. So instead of an Aasimar paladin, we now have a human pirate! But he will without doubt turn out become just as memorable a character as the Aasmiar could.
 

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