MERGED - "About Edition Wars" threads x9

VILLAGER #1: We have found an Unfavorable Edition, might we burn her?
CROWD: Burn her! Burn!
BEDEMIR: How do you know she is an Unfavorable Edition?
VILLAGER #2: She looks like one.
BEDEMIR: Bring her forward.
UNFAVORABLE EDITION: I'm not an Unfavorable Edition. I'm not an Unfavorable Edition.
BEDEMIR: But you are dressed as one.
UNFAVORABLE EDITION: They dressed me up like this.
CROWD: No, we didn't... no.
UNFAVORABLE EDITION: And this isn't my d20, it's a false one.
BEDEMIR: Well?
VILLAGER #1: Well, we did do the d20.
BEDEMIR: The d20?
VILLAGER #1: And the skill system -- but she is an Unfavorable Edition!
CROWD: Burn her! Unfavorable Edition! Unfavorable Edition! Burn her!
BEDEMIR: Did you dress her up like this?
CROWD: No, no... no ... yes. Yes, yes, a bit, a bit.
VILLAGER #1: She has got a daily power.
BEDEMIR: What makes you think she is an Unfavorable Edition?
VILLAGER #3: Well, she turned me into a power gamer.
BEDEMIR: A power gamer?
VILLAGER #3: I got better.
VILLAGER #2: Burn her anyway!
CROWD: Burn! Burn her!
BEDEMIR: Quiet, quiet. Quiet! There are ways of telling whether
she is a Unfavorable Edition.
CROWD: Are there? What are they?
BEDEMIR: Tell me, what do you do with Unfavorable Editions?
VILLAGER #2: Burn!
CROWD: Burn, burn them up!
BEDEMIR: And what do you burn apart from Unfavorable Editions?
VILLAGER #1: More Unfavorable Editions!
VILLAGER #2: Paper!
BEDEMIR: So, why do Unfavorable Editions burn?
[pause]
VILLAGER #3: B--... 'cause they're made of paper...?
BEDEMIR: Good!
CROWD: Oh yeah, yeah...
BEDEMIR: So, how do we tell whether she is made of paper?
VILLAGER #1: Build a character out of her.
BEDEMIR: Aah, but can you not also build characters out of dice?
VILLAGER #2: Oh, yeah.
BEDEMIR: Does paper sink in water?
VILLAGER #1: No, no.
VILLAGER #2: It floats! It floats!
VILLAGER #1: Throw her into the pond!
CROWD: The pond!
BEDEMIR: What also floats in water?
VILLAGER #1: Bread!
VILLAGER #2: Apples!
VILLAGER #3: Very small rocks!
VILLAGER #1: Wolves hiding in apple piles!
VILLAGER #2: Sombreros!
VILLAGER #1: Singing guards!
VILLAGER #2: Percentile dice!
VILLAGER #3: Acrobats!
VILLAGER #2: Dryads!
ARTHUR: A torphie.
CROWD: Oooh.
BEDEMIR: Exactly! So, logically...,
VILLAGER #1: If... she.. weighs the same as a torphie, she's made of paper.
BEDEMIR: And therefore--?
VILLAGER #1: An Unfavorable Edition!
CROWD: An Unfavorable Edition!
BEDEMIR: We shall use my larger scales!
[yelling]
BEDEMIR: Right, remove the supports!
[whop]
[creak]
CROWD: An Unfavorable Edition! An Unfavorable Edition!
CROWD: Burn her! Burn! [yelling]

Lidgar said:

VILLAGER #1: We have found an Unfavorable Edition, might we burn her?
CROWD: Burn her! Burn!
BEDEMIR: How do you know she is an Unfavorable Edition?
VILLAGER #2: She looks like one.
BEDEMIR: Bring her forward.
UNFAVORABLE EDITION: I'm not an Unfavorable Edition. I'm not an Unfavorable Edition.
BEDEMIR: But you are dressed as one.
UNFAVORABLE EDITION: They dressed me up like this.
CROWD: No, we didn't... no.
UNFAVORABLE EDITION: And this isn't my d20, it's a false one.
BEDEMIR: Well?
VILLAGER #1: Well, we did do the d20.
BEDEMIR: The d20?
VILLAGER #1: And the skill system -- but she is an Unfavorable Edition!
CROWD: Burn her! Unfavorable Edition! Unfavorable Edition! Burn her!
BEDEMIR: Did you dress her up like this?
CROWD: No, no... no ... yes. Yes, yes, a bit, a bit.
VILLAGER #1: She has got a daily power.
BEDEMIR: What makes you think she is an Unfavorable Edition?
VILLAGER #3: Well, she turned me into a power gamer.
BEDEMIR: A power gamer?
VILLAGER #3: I got better.
VILLAGER #2: Burn her anyway!
CROWD: Burn! Burn her!
BEDEMIR: Quiet, quiet. Quiet! There are ways of telling whether
she is a Unfavorable Edition.
CROWD: Are there? What are they?
BEDEMIR: Tell me, what do you do with Unfavorable Editions?
VILLAGER #2: Burn!
CROWD: Burn, burn them up!
BEDEMIR: And what do you burn apart from Unfavorable Editions?
VILLAGER #1: More Unfavorable Editions!
VILLAGER #2: Paper!
BEDEMIR: So, why do Unfavorable Editions burn?
[pause]
VILLAGER #3: B--... 'cause they're made of paper...?
BEDEMIR: Good!
CROWD: Oh yeah, yeah...
BEDEMIR: So, how do we tell whether she is made of paper?
VILLAGER #1: Build a character out of her.
BEDEMIR: Aah, but can you not also build characters out of dice?
VILLAGER #2: Oh, yeah.
BEDEMIR: Does paper sink in water?
VILLAGER #1: No, no.
VILLAGER #2: It floats! It floats!
VILLAGER #1: Throw her into the pond!
CROWD: The pond!
BEDEMIR: What also floats in water?
VILLAGER #1: Bread!
VILLAGER #2: Apples!
VILLAGER #3: Very small rocks!
VILLAGER #1: Wolves hiding in apple piles!
VILLAGER #2: Sombreros!
VILLAGER #1: Singing guards!
VILLAGER #2: Percentile dice!
VILLAGER #3: Acrobats!
VILLAGER #2: Dryads!
ARTHUR: A torphie.
CROWD: Oooh.
BEDEMIR: Exactly! So, logically...,
VILLAGER #1: If... she.. weighs the same as a torphie, she's made of paper.
BEDEMIR: And therefore--?
VILLAGER #1: An Unfavorable Edition!
CROWD: An Unfavorable Edition!
BEDEMIR: We shall use my larger scales!
[yelling]
BEDEMIR: Right, remove the supports!
[whop]
[creak]
CROWD: An Unfavorable Edition! An Unfavorable Edition!
CROWD: Burn her! Burn! [yelling]

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You win the thread sir.

I'm going to come out and say I'm in favor of lively inter-edition debate. I find it does a lot to broaden my perspective; I've rediscovered things about old editions that I'd forgotten I liked, and learned new things about how other folks play now and used to play back in the day.

Edition wars are an unfortunate but perhaps inevitable consequence of such debates. I think the mods do a solid job of shutting things down before they get out of hand--though I'm sure they wish they didn't have to do so much of it.

Dausuul said:

I'm going to come out and say I'm in favor of lively inter-edition debate. I find it does a lot to broaden my perspective; I've rediscovered things about old editions that I'd forgotten I liked, and learned new things about how other folks play now and used to play back in the day.

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Plus one to this, and thanks Dausuul for saving me the typing.

Personally, I'd rather see more stuff in General rather than less.

Lanefan

renau1g said:

2nd edition is fubar'd there, stuck between 1e AD&D and 4e...

My expected winner (besides all of us for the chuckles) is OD&D, I mean AD&D doesn't even bother with it, so it can focus all its efforts on 3.xe/2e and from there...the world! diaglo will be so pleased.

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Clearly, OD+D and AD+D have an alliance: they're going to kill the others, gain some ExP for the combat, take their stuff, gain loads of ExP for the loot, and head down to the pub for a beer.

Lan-"notice that OD+D is ignoring AD+D in return..."-efan

I get where the OP is coming from, but, there is another issue. How do you draw the line at game specific? Say a thread is started asking a general sort of question - a "How do you _____" sort of thing.

Five posters respond, all giving methods for doing _______ in a specific system. Next three posters respond, all giving methods in a second system. On and on.

It's extremely difficult to discuss gaming if we cannot reference specific games. And even questions that might be based in a specific system can certainly use help from other systems. If I want to know how to narrate turning undead, that's a game specific question, but, it's not edition specific, where should I put the question?

If we remove all game specific topics from general, it would be a pretty sparce forum and reduced to endless recycling of genre discussions.

Damn Weem, you're so awesome that I can't give you xp anymore.

the_orc_within said:

Uh oh. At least one logo is absent.... and someone's bound to be vexed.

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Like the Romans co-opted and adopted Greek culture, so too did AD&D absorb OD&D...with some cunning alterations.

Hussar said:

It's extremely difficult to discuss gaming if we cannot reference specific games.

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I find much insult in that. What edition do you play? I would like to begin bashing you for playing it.

Hussar said:

If we remove all game specific topics from general, it would be a pretty sparce forum

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It is anyway. Sparce, sic, etc., that is.

Compared to only a few years back, when it seemed full of people nearly all the time, full of threads, full of posts, full of enthusiasm. . .

Seems rather cemetery-like (i.e., post-war, hur hur) when I check in here nowadays. Well, in comparison, anyhow.