DUDE!! Where the heck is the Mind Flayer??

bardolph

First Post

• Oct 22, 2003

• #1

I downloaded the 3.5 SRD, and the Mind Flayer has vanished!!

Where the heck is it?

Is it also gone from the Print Version?

What gives?

 

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Ankh-Morpork Guard

First Post

• Oct 22, 2003

• #2

Mind Flayer, Beholder, and some other creatures were taken out of the SRD as Intellectual Property of WotC a good while back...yes, they're still in the books, just not the SRD anymore.

 

CRGreathouse

Community Supporter

• Oct 22, 2003

• #3

It's not OGC. It's still in the Monster Manual (both 3.0 and 3.5), but they don't want to let 3rd party writers use them. WotC considers mind flayers IP (and, arguably, OGL PI -- a discussion I don't want to get into).

 

bardolph

First Post

• Oct 22, 2003

• #4

ooo!! Darn them!!!!

 

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FrankTrollman

First Post

• Oct 22, 2003

• #5

Especially odd as the Mind Flayer is rather explicitly a Cthonian, especially in the original stuff from the seventies. So I'm not sure where they get off calling those "unique D&D creations".

-Frank

 

Darrin Drader

Explorer

• Oct 22, 2003

• #6

Here's your mind flayer: http://www.discover.com/issues/oct-03/features/feateye

 

Jürgen Hubert

First Post

• Oct 22, 2003

• #7

So, what's the complete list of missing creatures?

I'm aware of beholders, mind flayers, and yuan-ti. Any others?

 

Endur

First Post

• Oct 22, 2003

• #8

Both Yuan-ti and Mind Flayers are based on non-D&D sources. Only Beholders seems like a D&D original to me (and I'm even sure about that).

Jürgen Hubert said:

So, what's the complete list of missing creatures?

I'm aware of beholders, mind flayers, and yuan-ti. Any others?

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William Ronald

Explorer

• Oct 22, 2003

• #9

Endur said:

Both Yuan-ti and Mind Flayers are based on non-D&D sources. Only Beholders seems like a D&D original to me (and I'm even sure about that).

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I've sometimes joked that the illithid are Cthulhu's illegitimate children.

As for the Yuan-Ti, a lot of pulp fantasy has featured snake-like corrupt humans. I guess WotC does have a right to make some stuff non-OGC, but one has to ask what good products we might be missing because they are restricted creatures.

(I would LOVE to see an update of the old Illithiad and a similar product for the Yuan-Ti._)

 

Mouseferatu

Hero

• Oct 22, 2003

• #10

Jürgen Hubert said:

So, what's the complete list of missing creatures?

I'm aware of beholders, mind flayers, and yuan-ti. Any others?

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The complete list, to my knowledge, is:

Beholder
Carrion Crawler
Displacer Beast
Githyanki
Githzerai
Kuo-Toa
Mind Flayer
Slaad
Umber Hulk
Yuan-ti

And the terms Tanar'ri and Baatezu.