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eDragon: Starlock feats and powers

frankthedm

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(Oh and yes I meant Antagonist...)
Oh, i'd bet many players of Star Pact warlocks deep down want to BE the Epic BBEG :devil:. And none of this Heroic Level rule a kingdom or Paragon level take over the world stuff either. No, we're talking about tearing apart the bounds of reality, dragging creation away into some other plane or phase of entity and serving up the gods on a silver platter to the things therein.

Twofold pact sure seems more than even a paragon feat should be. Maybe if you had to switch between pacts, tearing your soul apart slightly {lose one healing surge] each time, that might be more reasonable.
 
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Ravingdork

Explorer
You seem to be talking about simply using a wand. Kunimatyu apparently means the additional arcane implement mastery ability that is gained from the feat (orb of imposition, staff of defense and wand of accuracy, all of which have effects that are usable once per encounter).

What I would've liked to see before tiefling warlocks getting two pacts was a way for a multiclass warlock to gain one. While in theory a tiefling multiclass warlock could get two pacts with this feat, he'd still be missing the curse to trigger their boons.


cheers

Maybe so. I've always thought of those as "class abilities" and not "powers," but I can see the similarities between the two.
 

Shroomy

Adventurer
They made some changes to the feats in the compiled 366 issue. For example, the tiefling requirement for the Two Fold Pact feat was dropped and the Eldritch Pact requirement was added.
 

Syunsuke

Roll 21.
Need clarification/correction about radiant fire.
Do powers have to have targets for Sacrifice to Caiphon?
Assume you are starlock and take Twofold Pact for fey pact. Do both star pact powers and fey pact powers give you bonus for matching pact?


Now you can build starlock mostly charisma based with star pact powers only.
And you can build human warlock with four at-will attack powers with Twofold Pact.
Hmm...


BTW, I made excel spread theat of Warlock powers, though I think someone already made this.
 

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Regicide

Banned
Banned
Note the plural. If it said "a target or multiple targets" that would be different.

It wouldn't be different, it would be redundant. If they were limiting it to multiple targets they would have been specific. Common usage of the language includes singular and multiple.

A: "How many people are in line?"
B: "There are no people in line."
A: "Who is that there?"
B: "That person is standing in line."
A: "You said no one is standing in line!"
B: "No, I said no people are standing in line."
 

FireLance

Legend
Shouldn't paragon-level characters be considered unusual by definition? Even if every single paragon-level tiefling warlock does in fact take the feat, you're talking about a very select group from a setting perspective.
I just remembered reading something about this in Races & Classes: something about how the very best warlocks are able to maintain two pacts and play one patron against another. I think it was something that was considered early on in the design and development process, left out of the core books, and has now made a return in Dragon.
 



Plane Sailing

Astral Admin - Mwahahaha!
How do people feel about Student of Caiphon having a utility power at 20th level instead of a daily attack power?

A stupid error in design which should have been caught in editing. There is a reason why those things are locked down in iron in the PHB, and article writers shouldn't break out of those basic design structures IMO.

Change the superstructure as much as you like, but leave the foundations alone!
 

Nikosandros

Golden Procrastinator
That's my feeling as well. I think that it's a bad idea to mess with the power structure.

I was surprised because I didn't see any comments about it.
 

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