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Cadence

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you are so close to understanding this, your problem is you see the Uber drivers as an isolated singular case when they will be close to the norm

I'm tempted to google around to see if there is a list of disruptive technologies and how they affected the flow of wealth between the bottom and top, and how much concentration there was at the top if it went that way.
 

Yaarel

He Mage
riding sea levels might be one of the least important consequences of climate change, yet you only ever focus on that one
I remember not too long ago, looking up a government authority published predictive model to see if my mothers house would be underwater. According to that elevation map, my mothers house would be ok, but she would live on a small island.

But the point here is, there is way too much bad science relating to climate change − because of a hysteria and an agenda that even people who should know better indulge in. The sea level literature is just one of many extreme exaggerations.
 

Cadence

Legend
Supporter
I kind of just want a list of the people who don't think it's a problem. That way, if it turns out to be one, my kids can know who it is ok to go hunt as food when the hard times come. And if not I guess the fair thing would be for me to divide up part of my estate among them when I kick the bucket after a very happy long life.
 
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ECMO3

Hero
This is from NOAA (US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration). NOAA is responsible for the lives of millions of people, in the context of hurricanes and so on. It must neither underestimate the risk to life, nor indulge exaggerations that disrupt the livelihood of millions.

What generally gets lost is this will happen over a long period of time and people will move inland gradually and over generations. It will not be the major global upheaval it is often portrayed as.

Places like Miami and New York will eventually be underwater 365 days a year, but by the time that happens there will no longer be people living there, much like ancient Alexandria and Baia today.

This amount of rising sea level is concerning because of regional complications, such as lack of drainage whence storm floods.

This is key. It is a regional problem, not a global one.
 

Cadence

Legend
Supporter
I remember not too long ago, looking up a government authority published predictive model to see if my mothers house would be underwater. According to that elevation map, my mothers house would be ok, but she would live on a small island.

But the point here is, there is way too much bad science relating to climate change − because of a hysteria and an agenda that even people who should know better indulge in. The sea level literature is just one of many extreme exaggerations.

Do you have a link to whatever said sea level would already be significantly higher than it is today? Or that says when your mom is supposed to be on an Island?

I periodically find that memories of predictions don't match the predictions or were kind of fringe. And at others I'm surprised that they do and were mainstream.
 

Yaarel

He Mage
Scientific SPECULATION differs from science.

Speculation is protoscience.

With regard to the scientific method, speculation isnt even a "hypothesis" yet. It is part of the background research to formulate a hypothesis.

Speculation is important because intuition − the "eureka" insight − and gut instincts are important for science but not yet science.

Today, it is normal to use the term "theory" when one means SPECULATION. This misuse of the term mishmashes the credibility of science.

Climate change literature is rife with SPECULATION relying on shame and panic to push an agenda, rather than actual science.


This is why it reminds me of the historical antimasturbation campaigns of the 1800s.
 

Yaarel

He Mage
Do you have a link to whatever said sea level would already be significantly higher than it is today? Or that says when your mom is supposed to be on an Island?

I periodically find that memories of predictions don't match the predictions or were kind of fringe. And at others I'm surprised that they do and were mainstream.
I was looking for that page. But it appears to have been removed. The NOAA measurement (inch per 8 years) seems everywhere now. As far as I can tell, these measurements ultimately come from the University of Colorado using satellite measurements since 1993.

Note, the sea isnt flat. Because of ocean currents, soil quality, etcetera, different regions have different sea levels.
 
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UngainlyTitan

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With regard to rising sea levels, the latest sober science (2023) establishes that the global sea level is rising about 1 inch every 8 years.

This is from NOAA (US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration). NOAA is responsible for the lives of millions of people, in the context of hurricanes and so on. It must neither underestimate the risk to life, nor indulge exaggerations that disrupt the livelihood of millions.

This amount of rising sea level is concerning because of regional complications, such as lack of drainage whence storm floods.

However, 1 inch per 8 years is a far cry from the very many alarmist predictions about rising sea levels made in previous years that have now been demonstrated to be false.
That inch is a global average, it can be quite a bit more at any given location. Even an inch per decade can have a large impart on the chances of local flooding and costal erosion depending on the local geography.
 

Yaarel

He Mage
That inch is a global average, it can be quite a bit more at any given location. Even an inch per decade can have a large impart on the chances of local flooding and costal erosion depending on the local geography.
No, the regional differences arent much "more".

However, some regions are more vulnerable to a sea level increase.
 

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