The issue, as I see it, is that anyone remotely familiar with the 3.5 SRD already knows that there is no IP that needs removing (except from the PI declaration that will be removed anyway with the move to CC). So asking people to point out the IP is moot. Either they are familiar with the 3.5...
Kind of funny how "me and the people I personally know" tends to equal "everyone" in these sorts of discussions. :) Read through this thread. There are more than one counterexample to your "everyone."
We all live in bubbles and one thing that is true of everyone... is that we all have no idea...
It's funny reading that thread where Elmore imagined it was the same character throughout (although apparently he dyes his hair different colors as he levels up), that TSR used the Companion set artwork on a novel to depict... a woman...
You are quick to quote the definition of Open Gaming Content (2d) specifically excluding Product Identity, but I don't see you quoting the end of the definition of Product Identity (2e) where it specifically excludes Open Gaming Content.
As for it "clearly stating" that one takes precedence...
:ROFLMAO:Sure! People are failing at OGL but that's because there's no official explanation out there on how to use it.
The CC-BY SRD has right on the first page how to use it (cut and paste this text). So OGL + CC-BY is not more complex than OGL alone.
Ideally, publishers would explain how to...
What is there to juggle??? The CC-BY license would literally just require putting the text:
And there, one license has been "juggled." You're halfway there. That's all you need to do. Period. WotC even tells you right in the SRD document itself what you need to do.
Technically, yes, and that was the common understanding for a long time. However, no one, as far as I recall, actually tried pushing that and just abided by the OGC declarations even if they were more restricted than should have been allowed to be. Especially add in the complexities of how...
The context of my first statement was clearly that if WotC is releasing it under CC-BY then also releasing it under the OGL is, in fact, 100% moot.
WotC releasing future SRDs under CC-BY and the OGL gains nothing. Once it is in CC-BY, any virtuous virality is entirely voluntary. The only way...
Sure, I'm overly wordy as usual (just ask my family! :ROFLMAO:)
But I would further addendum "for D&D" and absolutely agree! The D&D OGL landscape and the Pathfinder OGL landscape have operated very differently and largely independently of each other over the years. It did get airborne, but it...
That's another historical difference. During 3.0, those publishers were heavily shamed by other OGL publishers. (Not that it ever really changed their behavior, unfortunately).
Now, however, it's common standard for 5e (not PF 1&2, mind you) to even go so far as "Only what is OGC via the SRD is...
Early on it absolutely did, especially with certain products. Pathfinder 1, in particular, even massively benefited from several monster books and a few others. But there have been many products that were cited by other OGL publishers.
On the D&D side, however, that initial wave of OGL...
The SRD under CC-BY-4.0 allows it to be used with the OGL, but not necessarily the other way around. So adding the 5.2 SRD to OGL is moot if it is CC-BY. OGL publishers will need to make sure you include both citations - proper OGL declaration with updated Section 15 and OGC declaration AND the...
Unless that was a trial run for Clint_L's #4 - How much of a PR hit would it be? Pretty easy to not include that option on an earlier book while the new Marketplace is being developed and see if the PR hit is bad enough while there is still time to alter course. Apparently, the complaints were...
That's it! No more WotC for me!!! They've gone too far!
(Runs off to film a 60-minute rant for YouTube) ;)
Unfortunately, things like that tend to be more of the start-up kind of culture that corporations smother out. :(
On the one hand, it's not a big deal. But on the other hand, it's a...