Repel wood/metal and stone - area of effect

jabberwocky said:

Now, a line emanating from you only effects a path 5 ft wide, right?

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AuraSeer said:

No. The line starts at one corner of your square, and ends at a grid intersection of your choice. Draw a straight line connecting those two points; the spell affects every square the line touches or passes through.

This basically means the area is 10' wide. Depending on the orientation though, some parts will be only one square wide on the map.

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Magic Slim said:

I understand that the Archer won't be able to target the Caster by taking a single 5' step, but I don't get the part about the line being 10' wide...

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jabberwocky said:

Just looked at these spells in the SRD, and saw that their area has been changed from a "path 120ft wide and 10 ft high, emanating from you"(3.0) to a "60 ft line emanating from you"(3.5). Range is also capped at 60 ft for the 3.5 versions, while the 3.0 versions were 100 ft + 10 ft/level. Now, a line emanating from you only effects a path 5 ft wide, right? If so, this seems to be a serious nerf to these spells (which were only sometimes used anyways). It completely fails to provide any sort of barrier because anyone affected can just take a 5 ft step to the side and charge right back in or fire away merrily. Am I missing something about how lines work, or is this an error in the SRD? If neither, looks like I'm using the 3.0 versions of those spells.

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AuraSeer said:

Try redrawing your graphic. Instead of placing the spell line on a diagonal, send it straight down one of the grid lines. The spell area will affect both rows of squares it touches.

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After you cast the spell, the path is set, and you can then do other things or go elsewhere without affecting the spell’s power.

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Magic Slim said:

Question: The area affected is a 60' line away from you. Also:

Does that mean that if you move, the path stays immobile in space, or that when you move, the path is still connected to you, but always facing the same direction?

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Magic Slim said:

Also, Brown Jenkin, I think you're mixing up Repel Metal/Wood and Repulsion. Repulsion is a 6th level Sor/Wiz spell, 10'/level emanation centered on you, whereas Repel metal/wood is an 8th level Druid spell...

Slim

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SRD 3.5 said:

Repel Wood
Transmutation
Level: Drd 6, Plant 6
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: 60 ft.
Area: 60-ft. line-shaped emanation from you
Duration: 1 min./level (D)
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: No
Waves of energy roll forth from you, moving in the direction that you determine, causing all wooden objects in the path of the spell to be pushed away from you to the limit of the range. Wooden objects larger than 3 inches in diameter that are fixed firmly are not affected, but loose objects are. Objects 3 inches in diameter or smaller that are fixed in place splinter and break, and the pieces move with the wave of energy. Objects affected by the spell are repelled at the rate of 40 feet per round.
Objects such as wooden shields, spears, wooden weapon shafts and hafts, and arrows and bolts are pushed back, dragging those carrying them along. (A creature being dragged by an item it is carrying can let go. A creature being dragged by a shield can loose it as a move action and drop it as a free action.) If a spear is planted (set) to prevent this forced movement, it splinters. Even magic items with wooden sections are repelled, although an antimagic field blocks the effects.
The waves of energy continue to sweep down the set path for the spell's duration. After you cast the spell, the path is set, and you can then do other things or go elsewhere without affecting the spell's power.

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SRD 3.5 said:

Repel Metal or Stone
Abjuration [Earth]
Level: Drd 8
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: 60 ft.
Area: 60-ft. line from you
Duration: 1 round/level (D)
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: No
Like repel wood, this spell creates waves of invisible and intangible energy that roll forth from you. All metal or stone objects in the path of the spell are pushed away from you to the limit of the range. Fixed metal or stone objects larger than 3 inches in diameter and loose objects weighing more than 500 pounds are not affected. Anything else, including animated objects, small boulders, and creatures in metal armor, moves back. Fixed objects 3 inches in diameter or smaller bend or break, and the pieces move with the wave of energy. Objects affected by the spell are repelled at the rate of 40 feet per round.
Objects such as metal armor, swords, and the like are pushed back, dragging their bearers with them. Even magic items with metal components are repelled, although an antimagic field blocks the effects.
The waves of energy continue to sweep down the set path for the spell's duration. After you cast the spell, the path is set, and you can then do other things or go elsewhere without affecting the spell's power.

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jabberwocky said:

Just looked at these spells in the SRD, and saw that their area has been changed from a "path 120ft wide and 10 ft high, emanating from you"(3.0) to a "60 ft line emanating from you"(3.5).

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