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D&D 5E 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

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Sorry. Nondetection hides against Divination Magic. See invisible is Divination Magic.

It's RAW and RAI.
Fair enough, although I personally believe (opinion) that for a creature that is not naturally invisible or ethereal, see invisibility is not the type of divination spell that nondetection and mind blank should be protecting against since it is only revealing what would normally be obvious by countering or mitigating another spell. However, I also recognize the game designers want to keep the rules simple, so some abilities may be worded more broadly (and more powerfully) than I think they should be.
 

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He does have to come out and give is big rallies to stir up hate and bigotry against wizards. I wonder how hard it would be for a 20th level Assassin to one shot him while he is on stage?
If he does that he's vulnerable to scrying (choose one of his simulacra or magens as your target - you'll see them listening intently to something, even if you cant see or hear whats doing the talking).

He basically stuck hiding in a room alone (or with other mind blanked creatures) playing solitaire and spamming mind blank repeatedly till he dies, and nervously looking over his shoulder for a Dragonborn Cleric to appear and smack him silly.

That's a fate worse than death really.

If we really want to speed things up, a 20th level Diviner (on a day where he rolled a ew '1s' for its foretellings) could simply abduct a minion (via Scrying, and Legend Lore, and then Plane Shift) and then cast Dominate Monster on the minion (ordering it to return to its master) forcing it into a save result of '1', followed by casting Magic Jar and then Plane Shifting it back to the Material plane near the Sorcerer Kings lair (holding both the Magic Jar, and the giant rubber mace shaped shaped like a phallus)

As soon as the Dominated minion gets within 100' of the cowering Sorcerer King, you posses the Sorcerer King from your Magic Jar, foretelling his saving throw result into a roll of 1.

Then you order your minion to beat yourself to death with the giant rubber mace shaped like a phallus.

Works the same I guess.
 
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If he does that he's vulnerable to scrying (choose one of his simulacra or magens as your target - you'll see them listening intently to something, even if you cant see or hear him).

He basically stuck hiding in a room alone (or with other mind blanked creatures) playing solitaire and spamming mind blank repeatedly till he dies, and nervously looking over his shoulder for a Dragonborn Cleric to appear and smack him silly.
So if this was the case it would be unlikely he would have Wall of Force or similar spell protecting him from physical damage, he is simply invisible and/or stealthed?
 


So if this was the case it would be unlikely he would have Wall of Force or similar spell protecting him from physical damage, he is simply invisible and/or stealthed?

Wall of Force is concentration, and he certainly cant spam greater invisiblity all day long.

Does he even have those spells prepped?
 

I admit I skipped a page or forty, but somehow we went from an all powerful sorcerer who somehow has a magic army that's completely obedient to ... a guy hiding in a broom closet? :rolleyes:

Pretty much.

He's been hiding in a broom closet spamming mind blank and wetting himself in fear ever since he got wind a Dragonborn Cleric wanted to have some stern words with him.

Here is his most recent picture:

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Shhh you know he doesn't need these spells he has 99 wish slots per day

His Simulacra dont have wish either, seeing (as a sorcerer) he can only create them by emulating Simulacum by casting wish (meaning they dont have 9th level slots).

Unlike the Wizards simulacra army, who do all have 9th level slots.
 


I admit I skipped a page or forty, but somehow we went from an all powerful sorcerer who somehow has a magic army that's completely obedient to ... a guy hiding in a broom closet? :rolleyes:

Being repeatedly foiled, the endless series of sorcerers have been steadily lowering the bar on what constitutes "conquering the world". Its latest iteration is "speaking to people in bars to convince them wizard are all a bunch of evil dudes (beating DC15)", then resume hiding in the closet.
 

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