darjr
I crit!
My bet it’ll be usable outside the adventure
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Baron Opal II
Hero
Yeah, its just I'll have little use for the adventure. I don't want to buy a book where I find 10 pages useful.
darjr
I crit!
I get that. No worries.
But I bet there will be stat blocks and setting material throughout.
Definitely wait to see though if you don’t want the adventure.
I want that Lord Soth cover pretty badly.
Baron Opal II
Hero
It is pretty sweet, I'll hand you that.
darjr
I crit!
Cmon?! This is hardly fair. I really dig the new art, it’s really good imho.
Still, how are they to compete against one of the greatest artists of our time?
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Stormonu
Legend
I like, if not love a lot of the new art - the knights sallying forth from the castle is a great piece, for example, I just don’t like the costume design for the High Sorcerers in the piece above, and like the old costume better (such as the robes depicted on that image with the fallen red dragon in the first post…)
Ralif Redhammer
Legend
The test is supposed to be a deeply personal experience, and I think involving the player is a great way to simulate that. Also, for potentially traumatic events, if a DM is going to go there, the player needs to buy into it.
I agree with @darjr that comparing the art to one of the Four Horseman is a high bar to clear. I'll also point out that looking at a quick sample of his Raistlin and Dalamar illustrations, he was always careful to place them against a background that wasn't black. I would imagine that if Elmore had to draw a black robed mage against a pure black background he might have made the robes grey as well.
This is also an excuse to retell one of my favorite TSR artist stories. One day the TSR artist pool got to meet one of the Brothers Hildebrandt. And naturally, they begged him to critique their work. He demurred, but they insisted, so he finally took a look at the piece handed to him, by Larry Elmore. And then he said "there's something obvious here, and you're not going to be able to unsee it once I point it out to you. The only light is from the torch, right?" "Yeah," Larry Elmore said with dread rising. "If the only light is from the torch, how are Palin's robes showing as pure white?"
Their mastery of light and shadow was one of the things that made the Brothers Hildebrandt so great...
And if you haven't seen it, the Eye of the Beholder documentary is a must-watch.
Anyway, back to the subject at hand. One of the things that the video left me wondering is what are the rest of the players supposed to do during the test? I would hope that there are suggestions on ways to involve them beyond just sitting there watching it happen.
I agree with @darjr that comparing the art to one of the Four Horseman is a high bar to clear. I'll also point out that looking at a quick sample of his Raistlin and Dalamar illustrations, he was always careful to place them against a background that wasn't black. I would imagine that if Elmore had to draw a black robed mage against a pure black background he might have made the robes grey as well.
This is also an excuse to retell one of my favorite TSR artist stories. One day the TSR artist pool got to meet one of the Brothers Hildebrandt. And naturally, they begged him to critique their work. He demurred, but they insisted, so he finally took a look at the piece handed to him, by Larry Elmore. And then he said "there's something obvious here, and you're not going to be able to unsee it once I point it out to you. The only light is from the torch, right?" "Yeah," Larry Elmore said with dread rising. "If the only light is from the torch, how are Palin's robes showing as pure white?"
Their mastery of light and shadow was one of the things that made the Brothers Hildebrandt so great...
And if you haven't seen it, the Eye of the Beholder documentary is a must-watch.
Anyway, back to the subject at hand. One of the things that the video left me wondering is what are the rest of the players supposed to do during the test? I would hope that there are suggestions on ways to involve them beyond just sitting there watching it happen.
Stormonu
Legend
Oh yeah, if they had made the background something other than black the robe probably would have been black. I guess my issue is that they didn’t do that in the picture (and the design looks like it’s more for a rogue than a wizard). It’s also worth noting that in some of the other recent pictures they’ve shown, the wizard characters costume looks closer to the traditional ones we’ve seen.
As a side note, on that picture with Palin above, I can’t help it but every time I see it I think the feathers projecting out of Raist’s robe is a knife he’s about to stab Palin with…
On topic … I would suspect that its expected the DM and Wizard player handle the test in a one-on-one away from the regular game, or maybe the other players can run to opposition in or suggest some of the elements of the test so they aren’t sitting on their hands during its administration.
As a side note, on that picture with Palin above, I can’t help it but every time I see it I think the feathers projecting out of Raist’s robe is a knife he’s about to stab Palin with…
On topic … I would suspect that its expected the DM and Wizard player handle the test in a one-on-one away from the regular game, or maybe the other players can run to opposition in or suggest some of the elements of the test so they aren’t sitting on their hands during its administration.
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