D&D General One thing I hate about the Sorcerer

Micah Sweet

Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
So wait, are we saying that if a new edition comes out, all the old lore from previous editions is no longer relevant and should be considered thrown out? I spent a lot of time reading those books and learning about the history of the game's settings. It's all a part of D&D in my opinion.
I've always taken what I wanted from previous edition as far as lore is concerned. Mostly that means 2e's interpretation for me, but I'm also cool with additions like the Far Realm and Feywild, and the modern interpretation of the Demiplane of Shadow as the Shadowfell.
 

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Micah Sweet

Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
My stance is what it always is for D&D. Characters are unique, and I only have to come up with explanations for specific characters; no one cares enough about the cosmology to worry about WHY the Echo Knight can make a double of himself.

If my player says their fighter is just a humble farmer who got really good at protecting his farm and can now behead demons and dragons, I roll with it.
I certainly care about the why quite a bit, so please speak for yourself and avoid painting everyone with your broad brush here. You don't care about the cosmology or why and how things happen; that's all you can say with certainty.
 


Micah Sweet

Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
To which I say, phooey. If they want to retcon stuff, they can, but until I see it, I say it's official. If the Forgotten Realms isn't the same place I've been playing in for the past 30 ish years then what's my investment in the setting?
Unfortunately, I don't think WotC particularly cares about anyone's investment in the setting, because there are more than enough new folks coming to eat any potential loss of long-time fans. And of course, there are long-term fans who have no issue with the new world order.
 


TwoSix

Dirty, realism-hating munchkin powergamer
I certainly care about the why quite a bit, so please speak for yourself and avoid painting everyone with your broad brush here. You don't care about the cosmology or why and how things happen; that's all you can say with certainty.
No one I play with cares. I try to assume that people are always speaking about their specific use cases unless they use language to indicate a more general applicability; I do sometimes forget that people might not always extend me the same credit.
 



CreamCloud0

One day, I hope to actually play DnD.
If that's the case, why do they provide narrative justifications for all the other classes? Why keep silent on fighter and rogue?
because the narrative justification for fighter and rogue is skill, honed and refined to an extent the other classes haven't, the other classes rely on alternative power sources to achieve their abilities which is why it's specifically called out on them, as they're accessing something that the masses don't usually have, but everyone has the ability to train their capabilities.
 

Micah Sweet

Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
because the narrative justification for fighter and rogue is skill, honed and refined to an extent the other classes haven't, the other classes rely on alternative power sources to achieve their abilities which is why it's specifically called out on them, as they're accessing something that the masses don't usually have, but everyone has the ability to train their capabilities.
So fighters and rogues are not supposed to be supernatural then? Cool.
 

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