RedSquirrel
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They're referring to third edition. 2000, 24 years ago.
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D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.
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CleverNickName
Limit Break Dancing (He/They)
I don't know about "should have," but they certainly could have and I wouldn't have complained. As an example of how to build a fantasy world, Greyhawk is just as good as any other IMO.
Belen
Adventurer
I am sure some amount of updates are needed; however, a main focus of D&D is conflict. You could leave some of the problematic elements alone to provide campaign fodder for adventurers who want to change things.
Or leave it alone and then create adventures around changing the narrative.
Sure, but if nostalgia is the deciding factor, I certainly think mine is most important.
SteveC
Doing the best imitation of myself
We're seeing the problems with Greyhawk right here. It makes me think "Be careful what you wish for," to all the people who've been clamoring for Greyhawk. I think the way to make people happy is to just open it up in the DM's Guild.
Greyhawk was created in the 70s, and a lot of material for it hasn't gotten much update since then. The priorities of Gary and TSR back then are completely different than WotC in 2024. The best example I can think of is that many parts of Greyhawk are directly inspired by real-world nations and histories. Back when I was a kid, it inspired me to learn more about those countries. That isn't the way game design works now. There tends to be much more of a mash-up or no direct connection at all. And I know many of the cultural references will be dated and upsetting to a lot of people.
If WotC is going to present Greyhawk in 2024, it is going to be a completely different tone than the way it was presented in the 70s. If you go back and look at the Shackled City AP, you'll see that there's really nothing about it that couldn't be set in the Realms or other worlds entirely. That's the way an in-depth exploration of Greyhawk would go in 2024.
Greyhawk was created in the 70s, and a lot of material for it hasn't gotten much update since then. The priorities of Gary and TSR back then are completely different than WotC in 2024. The best example I can think of is that many parts of Greyhawk are directly inspired by real-world nations and histories. Back when I was a kid, it inspired me to learn more about those countries. That isn't the way game design works now. There tends to be much more of a mash-up or no direct connection at all. And I know many of the cultural references will be dated and upsetting to a lot of people.
If WotC is going to present Greyhawk in 2024, it is going to be a completely different tone than the way it was presented in the 70s. If you go back and look at the Shackled City AP, you'll see that there's really nothing about it that couldn't be set in the Realms or other worlds entirely. That's the way an in-depth exploration of Greyhawk would go in 2024.
AstroCat
Adventurer
I said it was an extremely small example. It's just one tiny lived experience I shared. You didn't get that part? It was a little example you could use to understand the larger context.
Surely you see how you kid knowing who han and Chewie are but not knowing who Rey and Finn are is more a reflection of how you have or haven't embraced nuStar Wars in your home.
AstroCat
Adventurer
Actually we are a very SW light household. His experiences are much more from friends and available media influences. And again it just one tiny experience. I probably should not have even shared it since of course it will be twisted into something it is not.
Belen
Adventurer
I disagree. My current campaign is heavily influenced by the collapse of the bronze age civilizations. I take a lot of material from historical civilizations when I create my campaign worlds.
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