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At least for me, it's not the exact numbers themselves which matter but what that would mean for the various tiers of divinity in relation to each other. So with a party of PCs at x level which relates to a certain level of divinity, you would have to consider what they would face as an average...

This might be helpful in comparing CR's - Monsters for Dungeons & Dragons (D&D) Fifth Edition (5e) - D&D Beyond I think your assumption is pretty sound based on the CRs for the high tier threats we've seen so far (Demon Lords/Archdevils ~ 21-26 and Tiamat at 30). CR 21-25 as Demigods and 26-30...

It's been a while, U_K. :cool: The Vampire Bestiary 2 would be nice to see, but as Rhuarc says, your limited releases means that it would be a better idea to focus on your strong suit - Epic/Immortals material. While I do play 5E now, I'm also fine with 3.5E/4E content. I'm interested in...

I am in the US and the site doesn't come up for me either. All I get in Google Chrome is that it could not find www.immortalshandbook.com.

I think that the 4x4 size is just a limit to make the tile-based sizes easier. I doubt anyone has a 15x15 miniature. I would imagine gargantuan to be about 40-80 ft. One idea is that the Multiverse/Metaverse could be the size of a regular universe, so Eternals would be only be able to...

Then Yotta seems like an appropriate size for a Muhlatimic dragon given its description of eating universes like candy. For the Muhlatimics, I had an idea that Wuji dragons could be created from holes in the Akashic Record rather than being its nerves like the other varieties.

Yes, monsters don't NEED to be ridiculously sized to be powerful, but I think bigger sizes are more appropriate for such creatures. I agree with you two on that Epic dragons should be Mega-sized, and I would be happy with Giga-sized Cosmic dragons. It is only the Eschatolics and Muhlatimics I...

I see your point on the age categories. You can just make each preceding age one size category less. However, I believe the sizes are too small. For example, Tera, which I think is supposed to be planet-sized, is too small for reality destroying beings, in my opinion.Why not make it two size...

I like this idea very much. Particularly the name "Archon Drake". If Muhlatimics are Supernals, then they are as threatening to Eternals as normal dragons are to humans. It seems like the dragons should be at least 5 levels higher to be the appropriate divine rank, if the strongest dragons are...

So for Solos: Immortals: 21-30 Sidereals: 31-40 Eternals: 41-50 Supernals: 51-60 That seems good, but aren't gods in 4e level 31-40 Solos?

Couldn't you just make one 64 page book?

This seems to be a good idea. It looks like you have it mostly mapped out. All of them sound interesting, but I am particularly interested in the temporal monsters, the Pseudonaturals, and the Intelligibles. However, I agree with Khisanth on releasing Temple of Death first.

Hey Upper_Krust, if you do make the epic monster book, will it have the super-solo rules?

I see some types of epic+ non-true dragons. I would see asteroid work for an Epic/Cosmic Dragon Turtle. Maybe the Epic/Cosmic Linnorms could be based on types of planets. Rocky Planet Linnorm - Epic ? Life Planet Linnorm - Epic? Gas Giant Linnorm - Cosmic ? Also, since the former Lunar dragon...

Are these numbers the number of heads? That's an awesome breath idea! You could use something like that for the anti-entropy dragon. Regarding the Muhlatimics, you could call the category Polemic with Yin and Yang being the two varieties. What would they be called though? Yin = Doom...

Abraxas actually works well as the first one of matter. He could have archons (not the d&d ones) as his dimensional race or servants. I understand Black Hole into Void but why Quasar into Lunar? Wouldn't a star based dragon be more appropriate for Quasar?

Then who is the current first one of matter? So are Cosmic dragons now folded into Nehaschimics? What is the theme for the extradimensional Eschatolics (by theme I mean how Cosmics are based on the dimensions)? I asssume that they are different than the anti-dimensional ones. Also, if...

The Muhlatimics are awesome, omeganian. I also like the story. So in 4e is Satan above a first one? It wouldn't make sense if he was a first one, considering Abraxas or Dabbat are Eternals. Also, what are Sinistrals? Are they Sidereals/Eternals? I always thought this was how the higher...

Hey UK, what are you planning to do after the next part of Vampire Bestiary (Temple of Death)? Will it be part 3 or that adventure path you mentioned a long time ago?

That seems more reasonable. Who inhabits each dimension? 0 - Umbrals (immortals-sidereals) 1-3 - mortals-sidereals 4-6 - time lords? 7-9 - high lords? 10 - supreme being and lipikas? Maybe, we need different types of time lords/high lords. (Probability Lords?) The name time lord could be kept...