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There's also the Murder in Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale and Ghosts of Dragonspear castle that are precursors to the Sundering.

Personally, I took the middle road. I like to keep some of the stuff available to villains/antagonists to be a secret to surprise players and keep them on their toes. When everything is available to players, the metagame creep is high. Best example was the inclusion of secret or "evil"...

Well we envisioned it both as flavor and some mechanical difference in spell lists, skills and some abilities they use. A "primalist" would have certain benefits related to being out in nature whether it's an ancient pristine forest, the top of a mountain or a barren desert. Spell components...

A dark sun warrior character. He's had to do immoral things just to survive the crucible of Athas and at first did the same in Ravenloft as he knew no other way.

I recently was discussing with some friends that haven't followed the progression of the 5e/DDN playtest and we came to a similar topic and similar conceptualization of classes. We narrowed it down to 6 "archetypes" but where we differed was along the lines of origin and play styles. The 6...

Long story short, we acquired a Forbiddance scroll in a Greyhawk campaign and we were discussing possible applications of the spell for our group. One significant point of contention came to whether the spell blocked only magical transportation via teleport, plane shift, etc or also blocked/did...

I disagree mainly because in the example of torture within the D&D alignment system, is considered an ultimately evil act. Choosing and acting upon the choice of torture is committing evil. To opt not to isn't Evil but not necessarily an act of Good. By being an agent of good, conceding to take...

Yet the player would have made the choice whether to act in accordance with the Paladin code in the first place. If the character chooses not to desire atonement, then more power to them. They made their peace with it and won't regain their powers. I fail to see the design issue vs the removal...

From a campaign perspective that works. I am of the opinion that the "generic" Paladin code of ethics is sufficient for the core rulebook. Although I wouldn't object to having additional or more elaborate examples too but they can also fit into another book or even the DMG to help DMs handle PCs.

The other suggestion is that along the way the caravan could stop at a way town that is terrorized by the orcs and the PCs are asked to stay and fight them off and abandon the caravan or better yet the orcs could surround the town and the players must mount a defense of both caravan and town...

I'd say he'd respect those rules that are both lawful and good in both letter and spirit. If the laws were just in spirit but not in letter. Say lying is illegal in the local town, but if it incurred a death penalty, the Paladin would not lie himself but if he caught someone in a white lie he'd...

Indeed. That's part of the dilemma of the Paladin in a certain sense. Nevertheless, his king was EVIL. He chose to act very late into the reign (i.e. the enemy was at the gates and the King was about to burn the entire city to the ground). He did struggle though as he has a flashback of a...

Gotcha. I was referring more to his desire to bone his sister and not care about the social mores or consequences, pushing Bran down the tower window to protect his secret, and his overall attitude of "I do what I want and if you have a problem with that, I'm strong enough to beat the snot out...

Well Jaime, at least in the start of the series, is decidedly not a lawful individual in terms of D&D while a Stannis or Ned Stark would more fit the bill.

Self-sacrificing for the greater whole does suggest less chaotic and more lawful or at least neutral behaviour by the explanation of the rules. Can a chaotic character be generous? Of course! But I would see it as they would do so once their needs (as they see it) are met. Say the government...

Yes, but a Paladin in 3E wasn't necessarily absolutely terrible because it wasn't a high stat. For example, if say the campaign was a roll system and the player's best stat was a 14 the player could choose to place it elsewhere (say intelligence for more skill points) and while not exactly a...

I always saw Charisma in that sense as the character's force of personality. Being that HP is an abstract term to say the least, the divine grace could be shown as either spitting in the face of adversity which fit very well with the concept of the Paladin as a doughty warrior that throws...

Personally, I disliked the concept in 4E that all your skills rose based on your level regardless if they were used or not. For example, say someone with swim skill that never actually swam for 5-6 levels is automatically better than someone a few levels lower that constantly practices. On the...

Just to play devil's advocate, wouldn't then the quest for atonement and/or redemption be such a story consequence? I'm of the mind that the Paladin's powers should be a combination of abilities and not just based on a single ability score. Although I'm nowhere near an expert of 4E, I do think...

As many have pointed out, the whole discussion of the Paladin has several facets that need to be taken and discussed separately to form a cohesive "whole". The 2nd edition Paladin book and the 3e Book of Exalted Deeds did a decent job of addressing some of the issues in this discussion within...