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And responses like this are why people object. No, they are Warlord equivalents. You might not like the mechanics. You can say that you don't like the mechanics and want a newer version that appeals to you. That's valid. Being all gatekeepy and denying that its a warlord for the people who...

Just an aside but... not all of the Fighter's class power is hardwired into high damage attack. They have Extra Attack, okay, and one Fighting Style; But the rest? Action Surge does not automatically equate Attack Action. Same with second wind. Indomitable is not about damage, its about...

I was under the impression that minigiant wants zero extra attacks. Plus, I was being kinda silly. The truth is that I've ... well, I had my own subclasses for fighter that included a warlord that I liked. Now, however, I'm kinda just waiting for 1d&D to be published, because I have a few...

The warlord was designed to attack to, you know. There's a reason its a STR-based class by default. Even if you're using a bow, its a STR based class. The lazy-lord was actually an accident. An exploit. The archetypes were based around using melee (or a bow) and using them alongside other...

There was a demand for the 3e style of Fighter where it was just all feats like expanded critical and enhanced fighting style stuff. Sure, I can agree with that. It did shape the core Fighter. I'm not sure I can agree that its why the Battlemaster fails to provide the warlord fantasy. I think...

Another aside - Mike Mearls doesn't hate the warlord. There might have been some politics going on in the background where people were gently encouraged from including 4e's poster class, and Mearls definitely is part of the "warlord should be part of Fighter" crowd. But its a bit strong to say...

As a side note.... Final Fantasy 14 has a tactician class. Its called the Scholar, which is a "magic" healer class (but all the classes use magic in some way, so its a moot point), but its core set of moves involve things like tactical positioning of shields, bombardment abilities, etc. Its...

I think its because I never see people saying "hey, here's my homebrew <insert class name here>, what y'all think of it?" They're saying "Why hasn't WotC made this yet!?" or "This concept is missing from the game!" So, then you get the people who come in and say, "hey, the concept does exist...

If, by defer, you mean sneak attack into the neck while they're asleep? Then yes, yes I do.

:rolleyes: You asked for thoughts about class design, and I gave it, and the only response is to nit over some unrelated detail? Well, have a good game and enjoy PF2, since it seems clear that you're not happy with 5e. I'm out. Tata,

And this is where I'm going to stop. The lack of choice is a design decision in a large part of the game, making it simpler and more accessible. Which has worked REALLY well for 5e. Sorry if its not for you, but this feels like you're trying to challenge one of the underlying fundamental...

Because 5e is doing a narrow number of classes that encompass larger archetypes than pathfinder classes. As Fighter includes the concept of military and mercenary outfits as part of its larger archetype, the Warlord fits within its umbrella. And it does very much exist in 5e as Fighter...

I Do like cyberpunk...

You need gold to build a temple? That's silly. Use your own muscles to do it (and, by muscles, I mean spells). Joking aside, If a player wants any of those.... that's a storyhook,not a downtime activity gatekept by an arbitrary number for GP on the character sheet. In my experience...

On the issue of seelie and unseelie courts.... I consider the seldarine and dark seldarine (aka Corelleon and Lolth pantheons) to basically be the embodiment of those courts for the average D&D game. I feel like there's a ton of parallels between Lolth and Queen Mab, as well as C.L. and...

In video games, gold and other currencies functionally serve as an experience track for your gear. This is expected and normal. If you remove that expectation, you need to replace it with something directly relevant to adventuring. IE the game we players came to the table for. If it doesn't...

Here's something to chew on. Avarandor, the Land of Dreams, is the original Feywild, dominating the Chaotic Good position in the Great Wheel cosmology (though it also bears more than a bit of the NG Beastlands as well). Limbo (chaotic neutral) is just the Outer Plane version of the Elemental...

nevermind. I'm out.

And from an OOC perspective. As someone who's played both, they are vastly different from an in character and out of character perspective both. The main astral domains are just... the gods' (plus) homes. You've got three gods chilling on three peaks of Mount Celestia. That's why you go to...

The difference is that Great Wheel has 17 outer planes, each with multiple layers, 18 inner planes, multiple demiplanes. Many of whom overlap. Very cluttered, and many planes rarely used.