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And I'm strongly of the opinion that people should advocate for their interests rather than shaving off any part of themselves which might ever cause the tiniest inconvenience for someone else. One does not need to be vacant in order to be accommodating. Being accommodating means respecting...

Precisely! Could not have put it better myself (most likely much worse). When the world is so precious to the GM that they nail down 95% of it before it ever encounters a player, I can tell where the GM's priorities lie--and it isn't with the players.

So instead we instantly and unquestioningly defer to whatever they want, all the time? That doesn't sound any better. It sounds far worse to me. At least with the latter, an actual conversation occurs. Remember, I didn't bring up this "no questioning at all" thing. That was Max. He explicitly...

So we should be bending over backwards to thank the gracious overlords who cannot have fun if someone does play a Tortle?

Same--or, rather, it would first be met with laughs and (virtual) clap-on-the-back for a ridiculous joke, only to then be met with confused anger if someone somehow insisted on such a thing. Likewise, the expectation that if the GM expresses even the slightest discontent, that the players will...

Are you bloody serious? Your players are so gracious, they'll ignore their deep-seated desires just to make sure they never inconvenience you even slightly? Pull the other one, Max.

Alright, I can see that, but I would consider that a different kind of "inherently objectionable". Namely, objections raised by imbalance or abusable mechanics. As a more edge-case example, one where I personally don't have a problem but I know plenty of GMs do, and I can accept that reasoning...

Okay I had a partial response written for this but it seems it got eaten. TL;DR: The problem with the question is, there are exceedingly few things that I as a player don't like or disagree with, and the vast majority of them are things that most people would find objectionable. By which I...

And as a GM, you should want to avoid excluding things that your players truly love but which you personally don't have such strong feelings about.

Personally, I do not, as I see the two as distinct for the same reason that "tiefling" would (and should) be different from "cambion". A half-dragon has a literal dragon parent, and will have a far longer lifespan than their non-dragon parent, making it much more like the fantasy of half-elf...

Not really sure why my standard is relevant, to be perfectly honest.

And I see the GM as having numerous responsibilities, because with great power comes great responsibility. If you intend to impose limitations on something that is literally selling itself as embracing the infinite creativity of the human mind, you'd damned well better tell me why those limits...

You might want to brace yourself because I've got some serious news. There's this brand-new, cutting-edge genre which explains all of this. It's called "fantasy". More importantly, you've pointed out exactly the issue that is at the heart of this (as is so often the case in these discussions)...

Okay. I see that as meaning that the GM is required to present the reasons for why their choices should be acceptable first, because they're the one arguing that limits not present in the actual game itself should be applied. The burden of persuasion (since there is no "proof" here) is squarely...

Yes. You and I were both able to read the text and understand what it says. There are certainly ways it's incoherent, but they're never seen in something like which class or race is present. (The repeated "You can do X, or you can not do X. You decide!" non-advice, or "Just pretend non-combat is...

Okay. How about dragonborn? They're in the PHB. In 5.0, they were literally one of the weakest races in the game (hence why they got two revisions before 5.5e). They're a darling for getting banned banned banned banned. What's wrong with them? They're a core race, low power, extremely popular...

Okay. What theme? What tone? What vibe? I understand that each individual example is going to be different. That's exactly why it's a non-answer for someone articulating their laundry list of bans to not talk about this. Yes. I'm asking for the people who advocate these things to prove that...

Everything. Like, literally, everything. Wishing it way with the word "curation" does not actually answer anything. Anything can be "curated", and "curation" can be absolute dogpoop or it can be sublimity itself. This is literally just defining curation. I'm aware of the definition. My point...

You are straight-up saying out loud what I already described: Is that not what your argument quoted here boils down to? "If they'd only kept it at what it was when Tradition Started in 1979, then nothing would be going wrong now." Absolutely not, unless you think something being playable makes...

So you play a game which chose to include a literal crashed flying saucer? D&D has never been particularly enamored with tradition. It's only the players, deciding that some particular year was the year that Tradition Started, and then making everything be like that. For the OG grognards, that...