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Yes, I understand that. This general rule doesn't beat shove or grapple. Opportunity attack beats them. I quoted this section to show in general how opportunity attack beats the requirement for "attack action" for sword swings. Unfortunately this is the only spot that connects sword swings...

Tell me that the heading sections are not laid out in a pattern of main headings and sub sections by virtue of the font size and use of underlining. Tell me that opportunity attacks, two-weapon fighting, grappling and shoving are not melee attacks. You are right that single weapon attacks is...

Dual wield is a bonus action AND it happens within the attack action. Melee weapon attacks are synonymous with attack actions just like shoves and grapples are as per the below rule. PHB192 Actions in Combat: Attack - "The most common action to take in combat is the "Attack action", whether you...

This is what is missing from these official rulings. From what I have seen they are not providing the "why?' and in most cases they simply regurgitate the rules verbatim. Hmm.. its almost as though they want to foster debate...

Here's a question about specific rules overriding general rules. The opportunity attack states you can make a melee attack. We know that shoves and grapples are types melee attacks because they fall under that section in the rulebook. Shoves and grapples state such and such about the using the...

I believe they weren't thinking about opportunity attacks when it was written otherwise they would have said "only if" or "only when" to make it crystal clear. In the case of the shield master feat it should have stated "only after" if that is what was intended. Because I believe this I have to...

Huh? This is what I meant by categories and sub-categories. Shoving and grappling are literally sub-categories of "Melee Attack" and therefore they are melee attacks as defined by the rules (as well as in reality). Its right there in the book What do you mean when you say a melee attack is...

Sorry, to clarify I meant treated the same in regards to opportunity attacks & readied actions. I'm glad you caught that. I forgot to add opportunity attack to that reply. I did notice it but you responded before my edit went in. I still disagree however. I have no counter points to anything...

I believe he is not answering the question. He is only quoting rules and likely doing it on purpose so as not to say no. There is one mistake however and that is the word "requires". Fair enough. I didn't know what to really make of it unless he really does like to trip us up. There is no...

I also believe my interpretation is "Rules as Written". I am only using the source books, no external references nor appeals to authority.

Good grief, here I go again... Crawford doesn't answer "no" to the question. He does however state another instance where it can be used. But look what he inserted here... "Grappling and shoving are special melee attacks" and then "An opportunity attack is a special reaction"... Coincidence...

You can't win an argument with an appeal to authority. I disagree with that ruling.

False premise. You don't need a dragon to determine a weapon's effective damage. I get your point though... its a fantasy game. However it is a game with rules.

I have slain many a dragon... and elves...

Shove and grapples fall under the "Melee Attack" main heading. That makes them both melee attacks AND special melee attacks as per their definitions. The Opportunity attack rule covers "melee attacks" which they still fall under, "special" is not mentioned. You still haven't proven what...

What makes a shove or a grapple "special"? You seem to indicate that it is because they use an attack action whereas I am stating it is only due to the strength check. The attack action doesn't make them "special" and the way you are ruling it here makes them less special if anything. The...

You're not following me. If swinging a sword is defined as using an attack action (p192) and shoving and grappling are also defined as using an attack action (p195) and you disallow shoves and grapples as opportunity attacks because they use the attack action then logically you can't allow...

Opportunity attack specifically mentions "melee attack", not sword swing. Page 192 "Attack" specifically states that a sword swing is an "attack action". Therefore using this logic a sword swing is not allowed as an opportunity attack.... specifically.

Shoving and grappling fall under the main"Melee Attacks" section, not the "Special Melee Attacks" section. The mention of these melee attacks being special is within the grapple and shoving rules themselves. What makes them "special"? Well that is written in the rule as well... strength...

My point is that the books states both a sword swing and brawling are attack actions... pg 192 Also, a sword swing is defined on page 195 as a melee attack and so is a shove or grapple... PHB 192 - Attack "The most common action to take in combat is the Attack action, whether you are SWINGING A...