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The humans and elves didnt quite take their lands. The humasn certainly didnt as they lived in their own ones. The Elves founded their capital, uknowingly, upon an ancient buried Troll city which did anger the Troll,s but the region the Elves colonised wanst inhabited itself. Also the specific...

I had explained my reasoning about "common sense", dunn owhy you didnt include it. But here we go again : "race" in the real world is used to seperate humans. "race" in fantasy is used in a different context to separate species. Humans in fantasy are a single race. Different context is...

Common sense. Race in thereal world was usedto seperate humans. In fantasy race is sued to seperate different sepcies : elves, dragons, orcs etc. All humans there are a single race. Also the fact that millionsnof people had enjoyed thethese things for decades with only a recent tiny invisible...

Different context, different meaning. In the context of fantasy race doesnt have the connotations of racial theory and people are able to separate the contextual usage of the terms. "cult" also has negative baggage, but it can still be used contextually in fiction without offense.

Maybe but this still applied in a more epistemic way, right ? Not in a fantastical context like here. Not to mention the Greeks had their equivalent word for "race". (Genus/Genos, Γενος) which has still remained till today. Of course the word isnt a direct translation and can equally be...

It was less about being patronising and more about me being dumbfounded that you made a false equivalence between a direct insult and the word "race". The concept of "race" existed back in Roman and Ancient times in their equivalent words.

Dragon age doesnt use "origins", it also uses "Race" in all games. "Origins" in the first game referred to the race and social class combination that your character could choose, not as a replacement for "race". How did you miss that ?

Do I really need to point out the difference in a word with ancient roots describing an ancient concept that has neutral connotations and an insult speicifically created and used against a specific group of people in more recent memory ?

I dont get whatt your hangup is with the real antiquated racial classifications. We talk about fantasy, made up stuff here. Who knows, maybe the "half-elven race" ? Fluidity can exist even with racial terminology. We still have ethnicity in reality even though it can also be fluid sometimes...

You are talking abou alternate ways to frame the question. Sure, they can be used but why discard the already used ones ? In real life you can both ask someone -What ethnic descent/heritage does he have have ? -What ethnicity is he ? Why not retain the equivalent term for fantasy ? Also...

I refer to the English terms specifically, not any possible language in the world. In all my life I have never heard a native English speaker, when asking for ethnic idenity, asking "what people are you?" In my language as well, it would sound wrong. Asking someone what "Race" they are would be...

Disagree. It would sound as awkard as in real life. "Oh yeah the Scottish descent once voted for independece" ....????

Too much drama over a descreptive term.

Greeks had/have Genus/Genos (Γένος).

The problem is, this is a slippery slope. The term "race" in fantasy refers to various sentient species that essentially have distinct bilogical differences. That highlighted element remains regardless what they are called. So if someone goes a step further they can also argue agains the very...

The term is as old as antiquity. Romans and Greeks used it. And again, in fantasy various groups *DO* have notably distinct differences. Most people who play it those games dont ascribe racist connotations to it. Those who do mostly project.

From what I know mostly, Oriental is a specific term used in the specific context of European Imperialism and Otherism of the East. "Race" as a concept as well as the term itself have existed in various cultures and languages without racist baggage.

The "o-word" ? I mean, ok, but...really?

A lot of things can look bad out of context. That doesnt make the in-context concepts problematic in and of themselves. Bringing up another term as a flase equivalence isnt supporting this case.

Yeah, and the fact that for decades fantasy media with millions of fans have used the term without controversy should tell you that most can disasociate one context from another. Maybe it could change, I am not completely against it. But lets not pretend that this is some really hot issue that...