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At the tail end of the Black Friday sale on DTRPG I bought the second editions of Mutant City Blues and Urban Shadows.

I'd bought everything a couple weeks ago (don't remember what the sale was, but there was one on GOG).

Presumably because they assume it suggests the setting is coherent and not generic and shapeless. (Note: at best I have a leg in this camp; usually if I have a fantasy setting that I'm closing off options I'm also adding some, but I still understand the position).

I just hadn't been under the impression that "character positioning in combat" was a thing they value very often. As I said, I'm speaking from nothing but impressions.

Yeah, unfortunate with the way momentum and my acrophobia interact its hard for me to not be looking at the corner (or more commonly, curve) once it kicks in.

I hadn't been under the impression that games at that end were particularly big into tracking position in general, but them not being my jam, I may be unaware of counterexamples.

I certainly read it (I try to do that in general if I'm planning on actually engaging with the thread proper rather than just seeing if anyone's said anything I'm going to respond to), but I'm not 100% sure I understand your question there; is it "How do you prepare and present maps for such an...

Yeah. I'm not a motorcycle rider but I'm prone to doing that and I very much know its not what you want to do intellectually.

Well, and just how much engagement you feel in the combat part of the game. If someone just finds combat a thing to get resolved to get onto the next thing, rather than an important part of the game element (or doesn't care much about the game element in the first place) its likely to just feel...

My personal observation long since was nothing will destroy your ability to take curves properly like your acrophobia apparently extending to angular momentum.

Oh, they probably have. They just likely have come to the wrong answer.

I just don't think one of the two alone represents the variety of things you can do besides simple trauma.

My best guess is its because of action point denial being a sometimes pretty serious impact in and of itself, and moving a lot of opponents more than 5' can produce that in practice.

I can see the argument. PF2e is one of the few D&D-adjacents I have any interest in, but the condition-hunting does sometimes feel excessive. I still think its better than the Million Special Cases D&D was prone to in the Bad Old Days, but I can understand someone who finds it tiresome. Eh...

My sympathy, @Umran, and I wish you the best in not letting yourself get pulled into grief in advance. I've failed to do so with any of the dogs I've lost.

I've been planning to pick up the main book there. Edit: Hmmm. Apparently that's one of the books not on sale.

I've not used any of them, though I think I understand them in principal. Veils seem to just have some finesse that X-Cards and Lines don't.

Though the degree of moving parts and special-casing in D&D components can make it more than trivial to ignore those settings even if you want to. I like PF2e, but I'd find it a chore to use it for a non-Golarian based setting because there are so many assumptions from that baked into it.

Or, honestly, its long since been solved by the presence of other game systems in the first place. I'm on record as noting that the basic mechanics of a system tell you a fair bit about the kind of settings its going to support properly, and D&D is far from distant from that; its got enough...

Hmmm. That might be worth a read. Is it generalized or aimed at particular systems or kinds of system?