[I hate it when WotC makes it hard for you]---How to expand Duskblade spell list?

Silveras said:

Something to keep in mind about the Duskblade: They begin play knowing 2-6 (maybe 7 for the right race) 0-level spells and 2 1st level spells. They learn 1 new spell per level, and get 8 "upgrade" opportunities over levels 5-20. Barring feats, that's it. 28 spells known, maximum; more likely 25-26. They really don't need that much more in the way of spell choices, because they are not in a position to really make use of more choices.

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Razz said:

Seriously, I am tired of classes with their own spell list. Because they only use the PHB spells and the spells in the supplement in which the class appeared in. They need to stop doing this and concentrate on a set of schools or go the Warmage route.

Beguiler, Warmage, Dread Necromancer were fine. You get all the spells on the list, every few levels you choose one from a specific school (s). Spellthief was great, you choose spells from a few schools. Spirit Shaman, awesome, use Druid spell list.

This Duskblade thing, along with Hexblade, annoying. I don't see a freaking theme with the spell list. Reading it through I can see it has some close-range, one target only, and touch spells, but I still kinda don't see the whole picture.

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Mouseferatu said:

The book has been out for... What, a week? There's no way anybody's had the chance to play the class as written for any length of time. Why is there a need, as of yet, to expand the spell list? I'm not saying it would never be appropriate to do so, but wouldn't it make sense to at least play the class as written for a while, and explore the options it offers--and there are plenty--before worrying about expanding it?

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Psion said:

It doesn't take a prophet to look at the rather slender spell list and see that the variety in spellcasting is not there.

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Mouseferatu said:

I'm curious about something.

The book has been out for... What, a week? There's no way anybody's had the chance to play the class as written for any length of time. Why is there a need, as of yet, to expand the spell list? I'm not saying it would never be appropriate to do so, but wouldn't it make sense to at least play the class as written for a while, and explore the options it offers--and there are plenty--before worrying about expanding it?

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shilsen said:

Ari, are you forgetting what's par for the course here? People usually start arguing about things being broken and badly designed and house ruling stuff even before books are released. The fact that people are waiting a week to change the spell list shows great restraint

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Mouseferatu said:

As written, it's a melee character with spells to bolster his combat ability. For those purposes, the spell list works really well, at least for a while. As you yourself just pointed out, if that's what you want, there are plenty of other class options.

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Psion said:

I groaned when I saw AEG make a base class fighter/mage. I groaned when I saw paradigm do it. I groan when I saw it in PHB II. About all that can be said for the Duskblade is it lets you play a fighter/mage straight up. When it comes to flexibility, the class does not have merit. 3e has all the tools you need to make a fighter/mage type from the core books. You should use it.

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