Joshua Randall
Legend
Why are you looking to screw over the PCs? Surely there are plenty of ways to hurt them without resorting to rules cheese.
Why is it cheese? Those are in game items. I have players who target NPC cleric's holy symbols. Is that cheese?Joshua Randall said:Why are you looking to screw over the PCs? Surely there are plenty of ways to hurt them without resorting to rules cheese.
Emirikol said:Sheathing your wand provokes an attack of opportunity
Rhun said:I have always thought wands were carried in wand cases, similar to scroll cases, carried on the belt, and easily accessible. You can use the quickdraw feat to draw a wand, so I would say they are quickdraw items.
As far as the holy symbol thing goes, per RAW I don't think you can use a holy symbol at the same time as your mace and shield. However, if the DM is flexible enough, there are ways around this. In one campaign, my cleric actually has his holy symbol mounted on the shield.
Emirikol said:So there's no real ruling on either one? I'd imagine that druids, rangers and clerics would want their divine focus on an indestructible mounted thingy. Wand-users will always attempt to claim that they've hidden their wands so that they can't be destroyed or disarmed (or stolen).
Is there an item/rule in the complete arcane or the DMG that would be relevant to either one of these?
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If this was not the rules forum that would be funny. if a DM want to allow varient holy symbols on objects, thats his or her choice, but the the rules for divine foci are pretty straight forward.Darth K'Trava said:Thief: HA! I disarm the cleric of his holy symbol!
Next you see the image of the cleric standing there with his arms crossed in front of his bare front, face red with both embarrassment and rage.![]()
Ed_Laprade said:#2. The first time you do so to the cleric's Holy Symbol will also be the last, if the player's at all intelligent. S/he'll have them put on everything the character owns. (And argue fiercly about "Why can a piece of cloth be sew onto whatever and blessed?"
Cool. I've always enjoyed sundering the PCsKenM said:Mental note, all my cleric PC's from now on will have the holy symbol tattooed on my body.
KenM said:Mental note, all my cleric PC's from now on will have the holy symbol tattooed on my body.
Frankthedm said:If this was not the rules forum that would be funny. if a DM want to allow varient holy symbols on objects, thats his or her choice, but the the rules for divine foci are pretty straight forward.
Divine Focus (DF)
A divine focus component is an item of spiritual significance. The divine focus for a cleric or a paladin is a holy symbol appropriate to the character’s faith.
If the Components line includes F/DF or M/DF, the arcane version of the spell has a focus component or a material component (the abbreviation before the slash) and the divine version has a divine focus component (the abbreviation after the slash).
Holly and mistletoe — —
Holy symbol, wooden 1 gp —
Holy symbol, silver 25 gp 1 lb.
Holy Symbol, Silver or Wooden
A holy symbol focuses positive energy. A cleric or paladin uses it as the focus for his spells and as a tool for turning undead. Each religion has its own holy symbol.
Unholy Symbols
An unholy symbol is like a holy symbol except that it focuses negative energy and is used by evil clerics (or by neutral clerics who want to cast evil spells or command undead).