I have a complaint (FC 1)

the Jester · Jun 26, 2006

So I picked up Fiendish Codex I and overall I am very pleased. However, I have one major gripe- the monsters' stat blocks include an adjustment for Power Attack, but they don't tell you how much!

Here's a plea to WotC that they correct this for the MM4 and other future books. Otherwise, it's a pain in the ass to figure out!

demiurge1138 · Jun 26, 2006

Don't worry - you're not the first person to notice this, nor the first to complain. On the Hordes of the Abyss Q&A thread, James Jacobs even mentioned that his original turnovers included the Power Attack modifiers and they were removed in editing. Outcry and conspiracy theory followed.

So it's certainly too late for the MMIV to get PA modifiers added if they weren't in the finished draft, but it's possible that sufficient hue and cry (or the editors realizing it's an exceptionally stupid idea) will reverse the decision for future books. Let's hope.

Demiurge out.

the Jester · Jun 27, 2006

demiurge1138 said:
Don't worry - you're not the first person to notice this, nor the first to complain. On the Hordes of the Abyss Q&A thread, James Jacobs even mentioned that his original turnovers included the Power Attack modifiers and they were removed in editing.

Wow, that's like.... anti-editing or something.

Damn, damn stupid. IMNSHO.

delericho · Jun 27, 2006

the Jester said:
Wow, that's like.... anti-editing or something.

Damn, damn stupid. IMNSHO.

I'm inclined to agree.

Has anyone gone to the effort of working out the modifiers that have been applied? Care to share that information?

SinisterSage · Jun 27, 2006

With the exception of Grazzt every monster with a PA entry uses a 5-point power attack.

Half of the stat block errors in the book seem to stem from the developers effort to change James Jacob's PA values to this standardized 5-point PA.
For instance, the original Bulezau from Dragon 341 uses a 3-point PA and has a correct attack line, while the Bulezau in FC1 uses 5 points and its damage output is one point to high.

Drowbane · Jun 27, 2006

SinisterSage said:
With the exception of Grazzt every monster with a PA entry uses a 5-point power attack.

Half of the stat block errors in the book seem to stem from the developers effort to change James Jabob's PA values to this standardized 5-point PA.
For instance, the original Bulezau from Dragon 341 uses a 3-point PA and has a correct attack line, while the Bulezau in FC1 uses 5 points and its damage output is one point to high.

Translation: WotC needs to hire more people who actually play/run the damn game!

Psychic Warrior · Jun 27, 2006

That does seem dumb. Even a line of text at the beginning of the book stating that all stat blocks have a X point power attack would have sufficed. Personally I'd rather they didn't bother adding any PA bonuses - I think any Dm, even one brand new to the game, can figure out something as simple as Power Attack.

delericho · Jun 27, 2006

Psychic Warrior said:
I think any Dm, even one brand new to the game, can figure out something as simple as Power Attack.

You would think so, but the stat-block errors in FC1 would appear to disagree!

Pants · Jun 27, 2006

Drowbane said:
Translation: WotC needs to hire more people who actually play/run the damn game!

Actual Translation: Stop screwing with stuff that isn't broken, editors.

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