Zaruthustran
The tingling means it’s working!
Rodrigo Istalindir said:
But would you fight him with a fox?
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But would you fight him with a fox?
Fifth Element
Legend
Wait. Is that all one character?Zaruthustran said:
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Crusty Old Meatwad (he/him)
takasi said:
At the point where you used the overused, elitist, and usually improper V word, you lost the thread.
You really need to get over it not playing out the way you would have done it. It's just a friggen demo. They could have done it differently. They could have done it a million different ways, and of course it was nowhere near the perfect combat. They decided to do it the way they did it, and it seems to have worked fine. It's not a big deal. Hordes of people didn't come away from it all upset. It's not a published anything. It's not an official anything. You had no sense of anything, because you were not even in the friggen demo yourself. Quit being THAT guy. If you need flavor with your demo that you heard about that one time on the net, just pretend it was the chained, semi-blind dragon from the Harry Potter series. But really, who cares when talking about a simple quick demo at a single con?
D'karr
Adventurer
The dragon lair looked something like this. The ceiling was not high enough for the dragon to fly and the water was not deep enough for it to swim in.
The encounter is very tough but by the time we got to it our party was familiar enough with all our abilities that we worked well together. We also had some lucky rolls. There were several criticals on that combat. The cleric kept using a power that gave the dwarf bonuses to AC, which helped a ton. The ranger was doing the majority of the damage. However, when the dragon recharged his breath weapon on one round and got bloodied on the next one, we were really lucky that we were not in a perfect cone formation. The dwarf got hit really hard on that one, but our cleric used one of his powers to heal him and then two rounds later the party was able to cause fear on the dragon, at which time we high tailed it out of there with the treasure we found.
So yes, the encounter requires the party to work together. Anything else would have been a TPK.
The encounter is very tough but by the time we got to it our party was familiar enough with all our abilities that we worked well together. We also had some lucky rolls. There were several criticals on that combat. The cleric kept using a power that gave the dwarf bonuses to AC, which helped a ton. The ranger was doing the majority of the damage. However, when the dragon recharged his breath weapon on one round and got bloodied on the next one, we were really lucky that we were not in a perfect cone formation. The dwarf got hit really hard on that one, but our cleric used one of his powers to heal him and then two rounds later the party was able to cause fear on the dragon, at which time we high tailed it out of there with the treasure we found.
So yes, the encounter requires the party to work together. Anything else would have been a TPK.
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LordArchaon
Explorer
My take: with just 2nd or 3rd level characters the fight would have been of different odds, and we're speaking of 4th level solo monster.
So, absolutely no problem with anything related to this dragon fight.
Anything BUT the flight.
A fight with a flying dragon could have been possible (always if we're talking of a little less difference between monster and party level) with just some cover for the PCs on the battleground and a bow armed fighter, maybe with some incendiary arrows to put some black flames from the braziers on.
Come on, we're talking about 3 levels lower party, the problem's all there.
I guess a 6th level party would eat the damn dragon for breakfast.
EDIT: In addition, I think the problem was with the dragon being a Lurker. To effectively fight a lurking beast like that, you need AT LEAST one character with high perception and initiative, which I guess was absent.
So, absolutely no problem with anything related to this dragon fight.
Anything BUT the flight.
A fight with a flying dragon could have been possible (always if we're talking of a little less difference between monster and party level) with just some cover for the PCs on the battleground and a bow armed fighter, maybe with some incendiary arrows to put some black flames from the braziers on.
Come on, we're talking about 3 levels lower party, the problem's all there.
I guess a 6th level party would eat the damn dragon for breakfast.
EDIT: In addition, I think the problem was with the dragon being a Lurker. To effectively fight a lurking beast like that, you need AT LEAST one character with high perception and initiative, which I guess was absent.
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