Night's Plutonian Shore [Midnight] - OOC

Walking Dad said:
Both my main languages (colonial and halfling) cannot be chosen in the quick menue. Could we change halfling to palegreen? And colonial to magenta?

I also noticed that our characters have no common language (and there is no high elven pidgin BTW)

The above is just a suggestion. I await DM thoughts on the subject. As far as high elven pidgin... I copied the languages from the orc entry in the SRD. No one said there weren't inconsistancies in the site. I believe my favorite in the orc entry is this one:

Weapon Familiarity: Orcs can use vardatches as martial weapons, rather than martial weapons. (I'm glad they cleared that one up for me)
 

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Okay, so I've had to go back and refresh myself on the languages and language rules out of the book rather than just relying on the SRD.

So, we have...

* Black Tongue (Pidgin only.)
* Colonial (Basic gives pidgin Erenlander and Trader's Tongue.)
* Courtier (Basic and fluent only.)
* Danisil (Basic in High Elven or Halfling gives pidgin in Danisil.)
* Erenlander (Basic in Norther or Colonial give pidgin in Erenlander. Basic in both gives basic in Erenlander. Basic Erenlander gives pidgin Trader's Tongue.)
* Halfling (Basic in Danisil gives pidgin in Halfling. Basic Halfling gives pidgin Trader's Tongue.)
* High Elven (Basic and fluent only. Basic gives pidgin Danisil and Trader's Tongue.)
* Norther (Basic gives pidgin Erenlander and Trader's Tongue.)
* Old Dwarven and Clan Dialects (Basic gives pidgin Trader's Tongue.)
* Orcish
* Snow Elf Patrol Sign (Restricted. Pidgin only.)
* Sundered Tongues (Restricted.)
* Sylvan (Restricted.)
* Trader's Tongue (Basic in Colonial, Erenlander, Halfling, High Elven, Norther, or Old Dwarven gives pidgin in Trader's Tongue.)

I think that means some people are going to have to redo their languages - note that their is no pidgin High Elven nor does getting Trader's Tongue give you pidgin in a bunch of languages (it's the other way around). I think, though, that everyone should end up with at least a pidgin understanding of Trader's Tongue, so communication shouldn't be too hard. ;)

As far as language colors, I am fine with whatever. I may use sblocks, though, when I think that it may make for an interesting situation.
 


Starman said:
I think that means some people are going to have to redo their languages - note that their is no pidgin High Elven...

I do not have the second edition book. What does it show for automatic languages for orc? SRD - Automatic Languages: Black Tongue, Old Dwarven Pidgin, High Elven Pidgin, Orcish.
 

Tailspinner said:
I do not have the second edition book. What does it show for automatic languages for orc? SRD - Automatic Languages: Black Tongue, Old Dwarven Pidgin, High Elven Pidgin, Orcish.

Yeah, I've found some errors in the SRD, as well. I'm at work and don't have my books, but I will let you know tonight when I get home unless one of the other players has their 2nd ed book handy and can help out.
 

This is from the new book:

Automatic Languages: Black Tongue, Old Dwarven (1), High Elven (1), Orcish.
Bonus Languages: Any except restricted languages.

The rules seem to contradict them self. What about changing High Elven to Danisil? It allows pidgin.
 
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Walking Dad said:
This is from the new book:



The rules seem to contradict them self. What about changing High Elven to Danisil? It allows pidgin.

Actually, what I think makes the most sense is to keep it as is. It means that orcs (who are described as having a gift for language and also spend a lot of time fighting elves) only need to spend one skill point to get basic proficiency in High Elven. If they do not spend that skill point, the High Elven (1) they have is useless except maybe as a roleplaying thing. "You think the elf said something about 'piss,' but you're not sure."

How does that sound?
 

Languages:

Orcish: red
Black Tongue: darkred

Norther: olive
Erenlander: orange
Courtier: darkorchid
Colonial: magenta

Trader's Tongue: yellow

Halfling: palegreen
High Elven: lime
Jungle Mouth: green
Patrol Sign: pink

Old Dwarven: teal
Clan Dialect: lightblue

Note: All of these are in the drop-down 'color' menu.
 


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