The Aleasana Meta-Thread!

You loved the Aleasana creative exercise! (Still ongoing! Join in now!)

You were moderately less thrilled with the Aleasana rule thread! (As above!)

Now prepare to ignore completely the Aleasana Metathread, where we talk about those vague things that aren't rules or cultural background! Like theme, debates about how additions fit in, and so forth...

I'll start things off.

I've been pleasently surprised by the overall theme Aleasana has developed--this is a world torn apart by violence, and still recovering from its past. Aleasana is a nation made of invaders, whose grip on the land they've conquered is crumbling as they turn on each other.

Also, I'm enjoying the fact that right now, this is not a war with "good guys". Every faction created so far is flawed to varying degrees, and each seeks to control the kingdom for what amount to selfish ends.

Yes, definitely a "shades of grey" thing emerging. I think we can all get the hate on for the "human supremacists", though.

Which is why I made Majera the "true heir to the throne" actually. I mean, sure, her beliefs are pure evil, but she is the one with a claim that's a bit better then "I've got the men to hold it, and I really want it".

Okay, I think we all can see how this...

Elitha was the first monarch of Aleasana and it is from her that Majera claims her right to the throne.
Legend suggest that Elitha was Shay and took a human husband, something which Majera however vehemently denies.

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somewhat contradicts this...

Majera, a scion of the royal house of old Asani, and a direct line descendent of Majerus Alsea, conqueror of the land and first king of Aleasana...

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Now, Tonguez I liked your post in general--it was a direction I was thinking about moving in myself--but can we iron out the details so they both match?

Rhialto said:

Okay, I think we all can see how this...{Majerus Alsea}



somewhat contradicts this...{Elitha}



Now, Tonguez I liked your post in general--it was a direction I was thinking about moving in myself--but can we iron out the details so they both match?

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Personally I'm not seeing a contradiction

1. Majerus Alsea was an Asani conquerer who became First King

2. Elitha was a monarch (I deliberately avoided he term Queen) from amongst the people who inhabited Aleseana before the arrival of the Asani

3. the two were married and started the Royal line of Aleasana

=> Majera gets a double claim from being descended from both sires. Through Majerus she carries the Inherent Right to rule the Asani and from Elitha she carries the Indigenous Right to rule the land (Rock)

Now there are some who claim that Elitha was Shay, Majera and the human supremecists of course contends that she was human (but of course the truth may be weirder still!).

Actually the Shay-Asani linkup explains how the formerly giant Asani shrunk to their current Human size. Of course by now any sign of Shay heritage has receded and has no impact other than current human height and capicity to interbreed

The other point is I purposely claimed that Elitha as Shay was Legend to allow the possibility of it being a historic fiction...

The term Aleasani described the humans though I think. The native peoples were displaced when the Aleasani arrived, and have not been seen nor heard from in quite some time since then. The Aleasani humans who stayed behind, partway through the voyage to the mainland that would be later called Aleasana, were called the Asani because they were no longer true Aleasani and no longer part of the old Aleasani nation. Though I suppose Asani could've been used as the name of the ancient humans instead, in which case the humans who reached the continent's mainland and settled there named themselves Aleasani for some reason and also simultaneously named the land after themselves....

You'd have to at least edit your post though to say that Elitha was the first monarch in Aleasana before Majerus, or something, indicating that there was a difference. As it stands though, in the main thread it looks like you're contradicting the post that said Majerus was the first king of Aleasana. You'd have to clarify that Elitha was monarch of the land before Majerus, not monarch of the kingdom Majerus founded.

ah now I see I had thought that the humans were the Asani.

yes I can do as you suggest (I'll aut for Rhialto to give us some clarification firt though)

Okay, Aleasani is the name of the "civilized" race of men who arrived from the East. They apparently named the land "Aleasana" when they arrived, and wound up being called the Aleasani by everyone else there. The isles of Asani are first place they arrived after fleeing their homeland--those who lived in the isles were mutated by a curse (and probably extensive inbreediing) from tall men and women who "seemed like giants" to the rather short natives, into grotesque twisted giants. From this, and other postings, (many of which, I fear are my own) we can conclude that the original name of Aleasani was simply the Asani.

The natives of Aleasana before the Aleasani arrived were the Dvergar, the Bodai, the Juri, and a race of humans in the North. Also, the Shay and the Urukhs appear to have been nativized by this time, though both are somewhat alien to the land. Finally, there may have been some other race of men, besides the Northeners--however, if they existed, they have been completely absorbed and assimilated by the Aleasani.

And finally, there are the Dragons...

Is the Urukh homeland on the same continent as Aleasana? I understand it to be in the southwest, but I'm not sure what that means. If it is the same continent and far to the southwest, that means that it is beyond the Sun's Anvil Desert on the western coast of the continent. If it's on another continent... is it the same place the Shay came from?

Just trying to understand the lay of the land...
--sam

Hm, might be time draw a rough sketch of Aleasana. Faegrim lies along the West coast of Aleasana, and the Sun's Anvil Desert lies along it's Southern border. Where do we wnat Urukgh to lie, in comparison with those two?