Vecna and Rary

Can anyone fill me in on Vecna's ascension? I've got a version of it for my campaign, but would like to know the official version, since it will be what Vecna believes happened.

Also, in the Gazetteer, it says Rary turned on the Circle of Eight and killed some of them. Anyone know why?

Thanks!

which ascension are you talking about?

In die vecna die,Vecna attempts to sort of suck in Iuz but with the help of some sort of elder serpant in this book he also escapes from ravenloft.But his plan ultimately fails.Although he briefly becomes a greater god until the lady of pain quashes him.His original ascension just sort of happens he just gains in power intil he ascends to te status of demigod although after the events above he is a lesser god I think.

As for Rary I guess he wanted to take over the world so he killed Tenser and Otiluke but Tenser somehow managed to be resurected.Rary then took over the bright desert.

I can never remember who Rary is. Anyway have any hints or tricks to jog my memory?

mmadsen said:

I can never remember who Rary is. Anyway have any hints or tricks to jog my memory?

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rary i think is one of the circle of 8 wizards that controlled greyhawk more or less

Mnemonically Enhanced Mmadsen said:

I can never remember who Rary is. Anyway have any hints or tricks to jog my memory?

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Someone should beat you. That's just terrible.

Rary:
As I recall from reading Rary the Traitor, Rary spent a lot of time with the Paynim nomads in somewhere-or-other, Ket or something. He started to "go native", as it were, and started to see the world from their view a little more than from his view, and they tended to be a rather raucous crowd who were into raiding and other general Genghis Khan type stuff. At the end of the Greyhawk Wars, he became convinced that the Circle's rigid neutrality was useless, since it wasn't solving anything, so he decided to eliminate the Circle so that he could bring peace and order to the Galaxy. I mean, to the Flanaess. His plan didn't work (why does anyone become an Evil Genius? their plans never succeed), but he -did- manage to kill off Tenser and Otiluke at the big peace conference, so he was happy because he really, really hated Otiluke. He also had everyone's favorite wacko, Lord Robilar, nab their clones. He then had to flee, because even mighty Rary, highest-level of the Circle of Eight, can't stand up to Elminster, I mean, Mordenkainen (heh heh, I couldn't resist. Seriously, though -- Mordenkainen and the other surviving Circle members plus a bunch of Greyhawk soldiers and the like would have been a bit much for Rary). He fled into the Bright Desert where he met up again with Robilar and they established their own little kingdom there.

So Rary is a classic example of the "misguided good guy who turns evil in the name of solving the world's problems".

Tenser, being Lawful Good and Ernie Gygax's character, got to come back to life after being a prisoner (as a dretch) of Tuerney the Merciless. Otiluke, being obnoxious (really, a man who needed Gauntlets of Kobold Power?) stayed dead.

Ascention

According to Die Vecna Die (in the blurb in the brggining), Vecna died quite normally (i.e. violently), but he became so legendary that a cult developed around him. His spirit, floating in the world, slowly gained power and consciousness from his worshippers, until he became a demigod (or something on that scale). From then on, of course, he developed all sort of plans to become a Greater god.

Thanks all! I guess I'll have to make something else up for Vecna's ascension. You see, he thinks he stole the Divine Spark from the god of Trickery, but its all just a trick (not your practical joke kind though)

mmadsen said:

I can never remember who Rary is. Anyway have any hints or tricks to jog my memory?

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sorry, I just have to laugh at the irony...

Try Rary's Mnemonic Enhancer!

Hm....so in Greyhawk, a Circle of Eight tries to control everything, and one goes basically bonkers with power ("but I can so easily *fix*It*All!"), and the rest lay the smack down after some casualties?

Hurm...already likin' it better than any plot in FR I've heard of.

Well, not much smack was laid down by the rest of them. As I recall it (can't get at my copy right now), all they did was force him to depart. He got himself a small kingdom in a desert (chock-full of ruins and artifacts, like all good deserts), and some dead Circle members, so I guess he sort of won. He did not, however, disrupt the peace conference, actually.. so more of a draw.

His own brother disowned him afterwards, too.