What happens when a disjunction hits a blessed book?
- Thread starter Bad Paper
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Bad Paper said:
I'd play it as the book expanding to it's former size as 1000 page tome. You could still add spells to it, but it would be at normal cost, and good luck carrying it around.
Bad Paper said:
Most likely, the connection to the extradimensional space would be severed, and all items within would be lost in the astral plane. I'd also have the portable hole unravel, as the description suggests that the construction is also magical. The bag of holding would simply be a finely made bag.
frankthedm
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I'd say book goes innert and the spells within are as useless as incorrectly scribed spells.
Lela
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I'd avoid that to prevent an assult on my person, even if all the other options were disproven. Besides, it seems like it would be more interesting to have the book be suddenly massive and weighing the Wizard down.frankthedm said:
Low strength? You'll wish you had a carrying capacity when I'm done with you.
frankthedm
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Disjunction is why not every spellbook is a "Blessed book"
![:]](http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png "Devious :]")
You are too nice. If the enchantment worked off "Shink Item" i wound agree with you.
I do have to recant my previous position. The book, this edition, seems built off 'secret page'. Given the book's size, it is at least 9 Secret Pages per page. As such if disjoined, i would say 1 page in every 10 would still exist.
Bock Kobe'sBlessed Book
This well-made tome is always of small size, typically no more than 12 inches tall, 8 inches wide, and 1 inch thick. All such books are durable, waterproof, bound with iron overlaid with silver, and locked.
A wizard can fill the 1,000 pages of a blessed book with spells without paying the 100 gp per page material cost. This book is never found as randomly generated treasure with spells already inscribed in it.
Moderate transmutation; CL 7th; Craft Wondrous Item, secret page; Price 12,500 gp;Weight 1 lb.
Secret Page
Transmutation
Level: Brd 3, Sor/Wiz 3
Components: V, S, M
Casting Time: 10 minutes
Range: Touch
Target: Page touched, up to 3 sq. ft. in size
Duration: Permanent
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: No
Secret page alters the contents of a page so that they appear to be something entirely different. The text of a spell can be changed to show even another spell. Explosive runes or sepia snake sigil can be cast upon the secret page.
A comprehend languages spell alone cannot reveal a secret page’s contents. You are able to reveal the original contents by speaking a special word. You can then peruse the actual page, and return it to its secret page form at will. You can also remove the spell by double repetition of the special word. A detect magic spell reveals dim magic on the page in question but does not reveal its true contents. True seeing reveals the presence of the hidden material but does not reveal the contents unless cast in combination with comprehend languages. A secret page spell can be dispelled, and the hidden writings can be destroyed by means of an erase spell.
Material Component
Powdered herring scales and will-o’-wisp essence.
Lela said:I'd avoid that to prevent an assult on my person, even if all the other options were disproven. Besides, it seems like it would be more interesting to have the book be suddenly massive and weighing the Wizard down.
Low strength? You'll wish you had a carrying capacity when I'm done with you.
You are too nice. If the enchantment worked off "Shink Item" i wound agree with you. I do have to recant my previous position. The book, this edition, seems built off 'secret page'. Given the book's size, it is at least 9 Secret Pages per page. As such if disjoined, i would say 1 page in every 10 would still exist.
Bock Kobe'sBlessed Book
This well-made tome is always of small size, typically no more than 12 inches tall, 8 inches wide, and 1 inch thick. All such books are durable, waterproof, bound with iron overlaid with silver, and locked.
A wizard can fill the 1,000 pages of a blessed book with spells without paying the 100 gp per page material cost. This book is never found as randomly generated treasure with spells already inscribed in it.
Moderate transmutation; CL 7th; Craft Wondrous Item, secret page; Price 12,500 gp;Weight 1 lb.
Secret Page
Transmutation
Level: Brd 3, Sor/Wiz 3
Components: V, S, M
Casting Time: 10 minutes
Range: Touch
Target: Page touched, up to 3 sq. ft. in size
Duration: Permanent
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: No
Secret page alters the contents of a page so that they appear to be something entirely different. The text of a spell can be changed to show even another spell. Explosive runes or sepia snake sigil can be cast upon the secret page.
A comprehend languages spell alone cannot reveal a secret page’s contents. You are able to reveal the original contents by speaking a special word. You can then peruse the actual page, and return it to its secret page form at will. You can also remove the spell by double repetition of the special word. A detect magic spell reveals dim magic on the page in question but does not reveal its true contents. True seeing reveals the presence of the hidden material but does not reveal the contents unless cast in combination with comprehend languages. A secret page spell can be dispelled, and the hidden writings can be destroyed by means of an erase spell.
Material Component
Powdered herring scales and will-o’-wisp essence.
frankthedm
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You know that still screws every spell in the book except cantrips and 1st level spell right? All the rest are on more than one page don't forget...cmanos said:
Ciaran
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I'd prefer to have all of the extra pages spurt out of the book in a fountain of parchment. Have fun putting them back in order!MHahn1976 said:
On the other hand, if you want to go with the "most of the pages vanish" option, I'd have the first 100 pages (or whatever) remain in the book, in order, with the rest of the book vanishing. It's not nearly as cruel as erasing pages randomly, especially since that ruins pretty much all spells in the entire book, as frankthedm noted. And it kind of makes sense; the first bunch of consecutive pages are crammed into the remaining space, and anything left over vanishes into the ether. Or perhaps into the Ethereal... in which case you can go on a quest for the missing pages! Adventure awaits!
ThirdWizard
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Every spell in the book is cast on a random target or area within range and then the book explodes dealing 20d6 damage to everyone within 50 feet.
Okay okay. I'd make it so that the first 100 pages are intact, and everything else lost. Spells retained would be random unless the player had the order preserved in some way.
Doesn't the first option make the second one look better, though?
Okay okay. I'd make it so that the first 100 pages are intact, and everything else lost. Spells retained would be random unless the player had the order preserved in some way.
Doesn't the first option make the second one look better, though?
frankthedm
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That would mean 900 Secret Pages were on that last page. My way only has 10 secret pages per page.Ciaran said:
I like the ether quest idea, but that really is not how disjunction works. Though i could see the dried ink free floating in the ether waiting to be carefully pressed onto a properly prepared spell book page.
