XP Idea

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Raven Crowking

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• May 29, 2006

• #1

I'm looking for some feedback on an idea.

I am thinking of making all monsters worth 100 x CR squared XP as a flat rate; players divide by character level when applying it, rounding up. Do not square when determining XP for creatures with fractional CRs.

Thus, in a fight against a CR 4 critter, 1600 XP are earned. Four party members divide that among themselves for 400 each. The 1st level guy gets 400 XP, the 2nd level guy gets 200 XP, the 3rd lvl guy gets 134 XP, and the 4th level guy gets 100 XP.

I am currently using 1/2 XP and trying to speed my end of the calculations. I like the idea of accelerating low-level characters while slowing higher-level characters.

Comments? Suggestions?

 

Last edited: May 29, 2006

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Primitive Screwhead

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• May 29, 2006

• #2

Interesting idea, altho my first question is what to do about EL?

Most of my encounters are designed with a lower CR creatures backed by either terrain or tactics advantages.

It looks like I would still need an excell spreadsheet to run the calculations.. I sux at math

 

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Raven Crowking

First Post

• May 29, 2006

• #3

My first thought is to do nothing.

Of course, you can always make spot adjustments as you see fit.

 

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Raven Crowking

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• May 29, 2006

• #4

Primitive Screwhead said:

It looks like I would still need an excell spreadsheet to run the calculations.. I sux at math

Click to expand...

CR 1/6 = 17 XP
CR 1/3 = 34 XP
CR 1/2 = 50 XP
CR 1 = 100 XP
CR 2 = 400 XP
CR 3 = 900 XP
CR 4 = 1,600 XP
CR 5 = 2,500 XP
CR 6 = 3,600 XP
CR 7 = 4,900 XP
CR 8 = 6,400 XP
CR 9 = 8,100 XP
CR 10 = 10,000 XP
CR 11 = 12,100 XP
CR 12 = 14,400 XP
CR 13 = 16,900 XP
CR 14 = 19,600 XP
CR 15 = 22,500 XP
CR 16 = 25,600 XP
CR 17 = 28,900 XP
CR 18 = 32,400 XP
CR 19 = 36,100 XP
CR 20 = 40,000 XP

etc.

 

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Raven Crowking

First Post

• May 29, 2006

• #5

Hmmm...This might cause problems at higher levels......

 

Primitive Screwhead

First Post

• May 29, 2006

• #6

The math I was referring to was the 'each PC gains total XP divided by number of party members divided by character level'

Yup, definately a problem at higher levels. A 19th level character would have to defeat 36 creatures with a 20 CR in order to level up. {in a standard group of 4..and yes, I did that calculation in excell }

Despite your first thought, I would prefer using EL as the factor instead of CR..both for the reasons of my tendencies in creating encounters and to allow for using the same system to handle non-combat encounters.

You probably need someone here that is a bit more particular about math and actually uses the current XP system {and therefore could see how these changes would affect things like magic item creation, etc..}

 

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Raven Crowking

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• May 29, 2006

• #7

Actually, I don't have a real problem with the idea of higher-level characters taking longer to level up, so the 19th level guy who takes longer to reach 20th is a good thing IMHO. The typical D&D world should have far too many Elminsters for my tastes.

I also use systems (similar to power components) that allow item creators to forego the XP cost of items, so I imagine that this will not be a big problem.

Anyone out there math whiz enough to tell me what I am not seeing here?

 

Jack Simth

First Post

• May 29, 2006

• #8

Party of 4, How many encounters of CR equal to party level until level up by level:

Code:

Level	LevelXP	Enc	Split	Mod	Encounters
1	1000	100	25	25	40
2	2000	400	100	50	40
3	3000	900	225	75	40
4	4000	1600	400	100	40
5	5000	2500	625	125	40
6	6000	3600	900	150	40
7	7000	4900	1225	175	40
8	8000	6400	1600	200	40
9	9000	8100	2025	225	40
10	10000	10000	2500	250	40
11	11000	12100	3025	275	40
12	12000	14400	3600	300	40
13	13000	16900	4225	325	40
14	14000	19600	4900	350	40
15	15000	22500	5625	375	40
16	16000	25600	6400	400	40
17	17000	28900	7225	425	40
18	18000	32400	8100	450	40
19	19000	36100	9025	475	40
20	20000	40000	10000	500	40

Forty, all the way down. Why? Well, Xp to next level = Current Level * 1000.

So, to get to the next level via CR = Party Level in a party of 4, you have: Level * 1000 = K (Level*Level*100/Level)/4 -> 1000 = K (Level*100/Level)/4 -> 1000 = K 100/4 -> 1000 = K 25 -> 40 = K

Current system is designed for about 13. This would slow down advancement by a lot at most levels. On the plus side, changing the base multiplier from 100 to 300 changes it to 13.33333 equal CR encounters to level up, which is book value......

 

ChampionoftheTriad

Explorer

• May 29, 2006

• #9

Looks good to me...I'm not a math whiz...but I am a D&D whiz...

....I have long considered using EL as the basis of XP awards a la D20 Modern...I just keep forgetting to emplement it...and I always eyeball them anyway...

...also, I too am TERRIFIED at the thought of good well developed intriguing characters racing to 20th level by the time they're 20 YEARS OLD!!!

 

ChampionoftheTriad

Explorer

• May 29, 2006

• #10

As I said...I'm not that much of a math whiz...or rather, I don't like to do math THAT much...

so Jack...what would be the encounters per level at 200 base multiplier?