You cant mimic what youve never seen.

Goldmoon

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I am currently playing a Bard who will eventually be a Chameleon. My character has a journal in which she keeps detailed notes about the other characters abilities so that she can better mimic them when she does become a chameleon. (How the warrior positions himself in combat, The way the rogue shifts his balance when he sneaks, the gestures and words the wizard uses when he casts, etc..) The problem is we have no cleric. I want to be able to explain how I learned to emulate one and learned to cast divine spells but how can I if I've never seen one? We are in the middle of the jungles of Chult inside a huge underground fortress without a cleric in sight. I know Bards can cast some cure spells but those are arcane. Does anyone have any ideas?
 

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FrostedMini1337 said:
Dream sequence!
Heiroglyphs/other ancient text
Ancestral knowledge

Chameleon to a bard or wizard and burn spells to divine it.

No offense but that sounds kinda.....cheesy. Im looking for something I can role-play with.
 

Yeah, the first 3 were, but the last one not so much.

Bards are supposed to know all sorts of crap right? Hence bardic knowledge. Bards can already cast curative magic, so if nothing else he knows the arcane principles behind it. Bards have all knowledges, and if you don't have ranks in it, can't you Chameleon a bonus in to it? I don't remember the class that well. If not, justify it with a Bardic Knowledge check. Clerical spells are just a mix between a small amount of arcanum and imploring your diety for the desired effect right? I'd say you have a pretty decent basis for it.

The heiroglphys I was mildly serious about. I think it's less stable than the afformentioned way, but I could see your "Barding together" a way of imploring a dead diety depicted in runes on wall if you deciepher them with maybe a Knowledge(History)+Decipher Script+Bard check.

Final note: Clerics kind of learn to cast spells cheesily. "Whilst praying I didst recieve a vision from Oghma and mine fingers were alight with the blessing of his name! What Ho!". Bards have been known to become very religious during bad times.
 

I suppose Bardic Knowledge would be the fallback. I dont even know if I have to have a deity to cast divine spells as a chameleon.
 

Yah, kind of a contradiction there. FR is very tight about divine people casting within their dieties, so can the chameleon dance around that? Does he do something close to what the Ur-Priest does and siphon the power away from another diety? Is he just so good at faking it (or whatever)?

Thar be adventure hooks to be had thar. Maybe you implore Sune or Oghma and they grant your business, but then they expect a favor later (they send a cleric to come extract payment next time your in a town with their temple)
 

The way I'm playing her, she doesnt like to be tied to anything specific so Im hoping I won't need a deity. This PrC is easily the coolest Ive ever seen and I can't wait to explore the role playing aspect of being able to change into whatever class the party need. "What the hell? yesterday you turned undead, today youre picking traps and using sneak attack?" I am going to have SO much fun with this PrC when I finally get it. (Im 2nd level)
 


I'm wondering how long it will be before the party notices I havent taken a swing at anything (Aside from disarm and trip attacks)
 

Goldmoon said:
I am currently playing a Bard who will eventually be a Chameleon. My character has a journal in which she keeps detailed notes about the other characters abilities so that she can better mimic them when she does become a chameleon. (How the warrior positions himself in combat, The way the rogue shifts his balance when he sneaks, the gestures and words the wizard uses when he casts, etc..) The problem is we have no cleric. I want to be able to explain how I learned to emulate one and learned to cast divine spells but how can I if I've never seen one? We are in the middle of the jungles of Chult inside a huge underground fortress without a cleric in sight. I know Bards can cast some cure spells but those are arcane. Does anyone have any ideas?

The Chameleon is fundamentally a big bluffer. The bard's cure spells and some vague notions of what clerics do are enough for a Chameleon. You could also just refrain from mimicking clerics for a while; bards can cover the healing niche well enough. Properly, I don't think you should be picking up new class features without some way of learning them, although there's nothing to stop you unless the DM decides to be a hardass.
 

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