Winterhaven is the new Keep on the Borderlands?

nerfherder

Adventurer

• May 9, 2008

• #1

Looking at the May preview, it struck me that the map of Winterhaven looked familiar. I checked my copy of B2: Keep on the Borderlands and, sure enough, it bears an uncanny resemblance to the map of the Keep.

H1 Winterhaven

B2 Keep on the Borderlands

Looking at the scale, the Keep is about 25% larger, and area 21 on B2 is larger than H1, but the layout of the towers and gates is basically the same.

I'm curious as to whether the designers deliberately decided to pay homage to B2, based their design on the same Medieval style of castle, or whether it's a total coincidence.

 

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Olgar Shiverstone

Legend

• May 9, 2008

• #2

nerfherder said:

I'm curious as to whether the designers deliberately decided to pay homage to B2, based their design on the same Medieval style of castle, or whether it's a total coincidence.

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The first, I'd guess. It's entirely too similar to be a coincidence.

 

MortalPlague

Adventurer

• May 9, 2008

• #3

Good post. I'd be inclined to say homage as well, that's too similar to be completely by chance.

 

wedgeski

Adventurer

• May 9, 2008

• #4

Nice catch. Will Winterhaven be revealed as the Keep at a later date/ Stay tuned...

 

Mustrum_Ridcully

Legend

• May 9, 2008

• #5

Wasn't actually one of the first ideas coming up around the adventure to basically redo Keep on the Borderlands? (Not that I know what Keep on the Borderlands was all about, I don't think it is in my D&D experience bracket...)

Or was it just the DMG that was originally planned to have a familiar village statted up inside?

 

Hussar

Legend

• May 9, 2008

• #6

Yeah, that's the Keep. Cool. They keep drawing on all versions of D&D. Sweet.

 

TerraDave

5ever, or until 2024

• May 9, 2008

• #7

And the Keep on the Shadowfell is like a ruined...mouthouse...with cultists...with big plans

From what I saw in the preview, H1 is more like a mashup of Keep on the Borderlands and the Village of Hommlet.

Like I said in another thread. 4E feels retro.

 

Wormwood

Adventurer

• May 9, 2008

• #8

Hussar said:

Yeah, that's the Keep. Cool. They keep drawing on all versions of D&D. Sweet.

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4e is like the Ron Moore edition of D&D: evoking the past without being shackled by it.

 

nerfherder

Adventurer

• May 9, 2008

• #9

Wormwood said:

4e is like the Ron Moore edition of D&D: evoking the past without being shackled by it.

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lol!

If it is a deliberate homage to classic adventures, then that's pretty cool.

TerraDave said:

Like I said in another thread. 4E feels retro.

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Must check that thread out, now.

 

Ashrem Bayle

Explorer

• May 9, 2008

• #10

Wormwood said:

4e is like the Ron Moore edition of D&D: evoking the past without being shackled by it.

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D&D4e is to Previous Editions
as
Battlestar Galactica is to the Original BSG


And that's a very, VERY, good thing.