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<blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 8756274" data-attributes="member: 6803643"><p>I still don't see the need for separate High Elf and Eladrin, other than the fact that they've relegated Eladrin to MP:MotM.</p><p></p><p>If you have to have High Elves, don't give them misty step. That's too much overlap with Eladrin's teleporting step.</p><p></p><p>But yeah, I'd agree, High vs Wood are cultural, and Drow is separate (and the three FR cultures of Drow, plus other settings' cultures should be discussed as examples).</p><p></p><p>Notice how Aereni and Tarenal and Great House elves don't care whether they're Wood or High, in Eberron? </p><p></p><p>Also, don't forget that there are Pallid Elves courtesy of Critical Role. If Astral Elves are starry-eyed, Pallid Elves are over the moon. But also… Pallid elves could just be another culture of elf, rather than the very unique features of Sea Elves, Eladrin, Shadar-kai, and Drow…</p><p></p><p>In 2014 PHB, Sun and Moon and Grey elves are all considered cultures of High elves, while Wild and Green elves are variants of Wood elves. Back in earlier editions, there were also Dusk elves - a culture of Wood elf that were actually Drow that regretted their actions and didn't leave entirely and regained some wood elviness, or else maybe they were associated with Ravenloft, in some editions. I'd imagine they'd be considered a culture of Drow now.</p><p></p><p>And then there are Avariel (winged elves), Lythari (elf-wolves), and Gruagach which may just be Wild elves but might be something different if you're in Greyhawk, and there's desert elves in Dark Sun who are all thieves because racism…</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marandahir, post: 8756274, member: 6803643"] I still don't see the need for separate High Elf and Eladrin, other than the fact that they've relegated Eladrin to MP:MotM. If you have to have High Elves, don't give them misty step. That's too much overlap with Eladrin's teleporting step. But yeah, I'd agree, High vs Wood are cultural, and Drow is separate (and the three FR cultures of Drow, plus other settings' cultures should be discussed as examples). Notice how Aereni and Tarenal and Great House elves don't care whether they're Wood or High, in Eberron? Also, don't forget that there are Pallid Elves courtesy of Critical Role. If Astral Elves are starry-eyed, Pallid Elves are over the moon. But also… Pallid elves could just be another culture of elf, rather than the very unique features of Sea Elves, Eladrin, Shadar-kai, and Drow… In 2014 PHB, Sun and Moon and Grey elves are all considered cultures of High elves, while Wild and Green elves are variants of Wood elves. Back in earlier editions, there were also Dusk elves - a culture of Wood elf that were actually Drow that regretted their actions and didn't leave entirely and regained some wood elviness, or else maybe they were associated with Ravenloft, in some editions. I'd imagine they'd be considered a culture of Drow now. And then there are Avariel (winged elves), Lythari (elf-wolves), and Gruagach which may just be Wild elves but might be something different if you're in Greyhawk, and there's desert elves in Dark Sun who are all thieves because racism… [/QUOTE]
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