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<blockquote data-quote="Toric_Arthendain" data-source="post: 5850241" data-attributes="member: 9833"><p>I was off because I had forgotten that orcs were CR 1/2 instead of CR 1. So 3e orcs are worth 150 XP to a level 1-3 PC instead of 300. In 1e they are worth 20 XP on the top end. One orc fighting a lone level 1 3e PC might kill him and would be a difficult encounter. The same can be said of a lone 1e PC against a 1e orc.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I never said you'd have to kill 30 ghouls in 1e to equal 1 in 3e. I made that comment about orcs and have since explained my error, here and in a previous post. I am aware that far less than 30 1e ghouls equal 1 ghoul in 3e.</p><p></p><p>For what it's worth, the ghoul encounters in ToEE look like this:</p><p></p><p>6 Ghouls, worth 95, 91, 89, 85, 81, 77 XP each respectively. That is a total of 518 XP. They have 187 cp, 81 sp, 5 ep and 61 gp and a suit of Elfin Chainmail that the module states can be sold for 500 gp. The monetary wealth that these six ghouls have is worth approximately 73 gp not counting the Elfin Chain. If that is kept, there is no equivalent XP award as it is not a magic item and the rules make no provision for XP being awarded for finding Elfin Chain. But lets assume that the PCs sell the armor. They now have amassed 1091 XP from this encounter. My group consists of six PCs in ToEE. They each would get 182 XP for this encounter. If they didn't sell the armor, they'd each get about 99 XP for this encounter.</p><p></p><p>The next room over contains four more ghouls. They are worth 93, 91, 85, and 83 XP respectively. They have a total of 108 cp, 92 sp, 37 gp, and 7 pp. Thus they are worth 435 XP total, or 73 XP each for my party of six.</p><p></p><p>In the next room are two ghasts. They are worth significantly more, 282 and 270 XP respectively. Sadly they have no treasure. Thus they are worth 92 XP each to my party of six.</p><p></p><p>So after these three encounters in the published ToEE, my PCs each received 264 XP. They kept the Elfin Chainmail. Had they sold it they would have grabbed 347 XP.</p><p></p><p>When you are level 4 and need anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 to reach level five, 264 XP for killing 10 ghouls and 2 ghasts and taking their stuff doesn't seem like all that much. And the 2 ghast encounter was rough on my group. Four of the PCs were paralyzed before the other two finished off the last ghast.</p><p></p><p>As far as what you assigned as the "average" treasure of a 1e ghoul, I dunno. I am only going by three encounters in ToEE that we have played through in the past few sessions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Toric_Arthendain, post: 5850241, member: 9833"] I was off because I had forgotten that orcs were CR 1/2 instead of CR 1. So 3e orcs are worth 150 XP to a level 1-3 PC instead of 300. In 1e they are worth 20 XP on the top end. One orc fighting a lone level 1 3e PC might kill him and would be a difficult encounter. The same can be said of a lone 1e PC against a 1e orc. I never said you'd have to kill 30 ghouls in 1e to equal 1 in 3e. I made that comment about orcs and have since explained my error, here and in a previous post. I am aware that far less than 30 1e ghouls equal 1 ghoul in 3e. For what it's worth, the ghoul encounters in ToEE look like this: 6 Ghouls, worth 95, 91, 89, 85, 81, 77 XP each respectively. That is a total of 518 XP. They have 187 cp, 81 sp, 5 ep and 61 gp and a suit of Elfin Chainmail that the module states can be sold for 500 gp. The monetary wealth that these six ghouls have is worth approximately 73 gp not counting the Elfin Chain. If that is kept, there is no equivalent XP award as it is not a magic item and the rules make no provision for XP being awarded for finding Elfin Chain. But lets assume that the PCs sell the armor. They now have amassed 1091 XP from this encounter. My group consists of six PCs in ToEE. They each would get 182 XP for this encounter. If they didn't sell the armor, they'd each get about 99 XP for this encounter. The next room over contains four more ghouls. They are worth 93, 91, 85, and 83 XP respectively. They have a total of 108 cp, 92 sp, 37 gp, and 7 pp. Thus they are worth 435 XP total, or 73 XP each for my party of six. In the next room are two ghasts. They are worth significantly more, 282 and 270 XP respectively. Sadly they have no treasure. Thus they are worth 92 XP each to my party of six. So after these three encounters in the published ToEE, my PCs each received 264 XP. They kept the Elfin Chainmail. Had they sold it they would have grabbed 347 XP. When you are level 4 and need anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 to reach level five, 264 XP for killing 10 ghouls and 2 ghasts and taking their stuff doesn't seem like all that much. And the 2 ghast encounter was rough on my group. Four of the PCs were paralyzed before the other two finished off the last ghast. As far as what you assigned as the "average" treasure of a 1e ghoul, I dunno. I am only going by three encounters in ToEE that we have played through in the past few sessions. [/QUOTE]
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